topic Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial? in IPv6 Trial

New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

TimSmall — Sat, 08 Feb 2020 17:31:55 GMT

Hello,

Since plusnet announced late last year that they are "committed to the roll out of IPv6", and are "in a good place with our internal testing which means we are hoping to start making this available to customers in Spring next year.” (search for "ispreview" "ipv6" "plusnet" for a few more details).

I was wondering if you'd be doing a staged rollout, and if so, this would be with a new opt-in trial?

It's been a while since I've had native IPv6 on Plusnet, and as great as my Hurricane Electric /48 is, it'd be nice to have untunneled IPv6 up again...

You will be making a /48 option availalbe FoC for those who want it, to make up for the long wait, right? :-).

Cheers,

Tim.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

TheUptownRiver — Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:56:07 GMT

Also want to know.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

SimonHobson — Sat, 15 Feb 2020 16:20:51 GMT

Well really there's no excuse not to hand out a /48 to anyone that wants it - it is (AIUI) recommended practice. The smallest allocation an ISP gets is a /32, which means they can give a /48 to 65,536 customers from one /32 allocation. They can have more than one allocation.

Worst case, they use just one allocation and hand out /56s (I think I could manage with "just" 256 subnets 😉) - that covers them for more than 24 million customers.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

TheUptownRiver — Sat, 15 Feb 2020 18:49:13 GMT

@bobpullen

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

MarcT512 — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:57:43 GMT

I'd also interested in this...

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

stephenw10 — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 21:32:42 GMT

Yes, any sort of confirmation on this would be a huge motivator to stay with Plusnet.

Steve

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

TheUptownRiver — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 15:58:23 GMT

Plusnet, it is now 8 days into "Spring next year"

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

mjps — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:29:51 GMT

Hi everyone, I am someone else who believes in progress around here, it seems we are in the minority though!

I just can't understand what people have against IPv6, I reckon all the people complaining about it wont even notice when they are using it.

Plusnet seem to be dragging out the process, when do you guess they will bite the bullet, update the routers, and activate IPv6. As many threads have allready said many other ISPs' are up and running with minimal (if any) problems.

Best wishes, frustrated from Middlesbrough.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

strongy — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 11:45:49 GMT

it really is getting ridiculous whats with the procrastination bt have supported it for years, "BT IPv6 users about to hit 1 million" that was in 2017, "Sky Officially Completes the Roll-Out of IPv6" in 2016.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

summers — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:37:39 GMT

I suspect that there is politics behind the scenes that we don't see. Probably something like BT wishing to keep clear blue water between BT as an ISP, and plusnet as their cheap offering. Anyway whatever the reason, its hard not to read it as somewhere high up in management, a decision has been to bury IPv6. Probably it got to the stage where plusnet staff are discouraged from saying anything about IPv6 - and that probably why we get no staff posting on this sub forum. All they probably can say, is all the have been saying for some time, that they can make no official statement (of any kind) at this time.

I don't know, what is one to read into all this? Maybe the long term pan is they just want everyone to move to BT internet, and just to have single offering; and so gentle pressure for us to move is a good thing.

Sigh, not even sure why I bother writing this, after all its not as though it will get a reply from anyone inside plusnet with any knowledge ...

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

SimonHobson — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:46:41 GMT

You might not get any answers from Plusnet - but you can have some thumbs ups 😉

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

stephenw10 — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:51:04 GMT

Same 😉

I really love to see an update though.....

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

dvorak — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:05:31 GMT

The update was they were looking to start rolling out in spring and then this happened.
PN are the value brand of BT and doubtfully going anywhere
But don’t let a pandemic get in the way of a good conspiracy theory

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

stephenw10 — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:26:47 GMT

Thanks. I appreciate any update from people who actually know.

Yeah, obviously the timing is.... not ideal.

Still, you could be trying to roll out 5G. 😬

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

summers — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:32:01 GMT

Well yes, of course we all hope that it is just a delay due to Covid19. That would be good.

Of course it would be nice to have plusnet say that in a post, then again it would have been nice had an official post on IPv6 rollout been made, rather than a comment in an interview.

Guess all we can can do is wait, and see what happens when Covid 19 comes to and end, so probably when a vaccine is developed in something like a year to 18 months.

Then hopefully I'll be unexpectedly surprised, rather than you being sadly disappointed.

So just to be clear, my snipe if anything, was the lack of communication. Thats where my major worry is, why is there close to zero communication on IPv6?

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

TimSmall — Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:32:59 GMT

A bit of fiddling around with Plusnet's BGP IPv6 advertised routes has happened this month, so maybe some activity?

Go to:

https://stat.ripe.net/widget/announced-prefixes#w.resource=6871&w.min_peers_seeing=0

put '::' into the search bar, click "load full history", and then sort by first-seen.

I think the addresses are still coming from the same 2a02:16c8::/32 netblock used for the original IPv6 trial from nearly a decade ago by the look of it.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

MJN — Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:38:58 GMT

That can surely only be a good sign!

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

mikecherry — Fri, 27 Nov 2020 11:29:00 GMT

Probably too late. Various announcements of CPI + 3.9% price increases in future don't suggest Plusnet want retention and no announcements at all on IPV6 don't bode well for the future.

I'm almost certainly off to Zen - where they don't keep trying to sell TV packages.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

mort7890 — Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:34:24 GMT

Hi @bobpullen Please include me if forthcoming.

Re: New IPv6 rollout - with, or without a new trial?

summers — Sat, 12 Jun 2021 01:24:52 GMT

Yawn!