topic Re: IPV6... in IPv6 Trial

IPV6...

stewaw00 — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 13:09:35 GMT

Just throwing my hat into the ‘Ou est la IPV6 a la Plusnet’ ring.

I came here from BT and whilst I can’t critisise the service for the price I’m afraid I won’t be renewing - solely due to the lack of intrinsic IPV6 support.

The world is moving on and it’s time you ‘got with the program’ lads/ladettes!

Wullie

Re: IPV6...

Browni — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 13:50:12 GMT

What is the lack of IPv6 support preventing you from doing?

Re: IPV6...

stewaw00 — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 16:32:25 GMT

Dispensing with the "pain the [-Censored-]" that is NAT for a few home office services for one. Full access from home to all my employers infrastructure for another, without having to jump through the hoops of tunnels / VPN.

Of course these things can be worked around, but it's 2019 for <insert deity here> sake... it's not like the core network kit doesn't support it.

Moderator's note by Mike (Mav): Avoidance of swear filter edited as per Forum rules.

Re: IPV6...

Browni — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 16:18:25 GMT

That's business use, not typical home use.

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Townman — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 22:28:38 GMT

As @brownei asked - what does it STOP you going as opposed to doing the same differently?

NATs and VPNs have their place, specifically in providing secure inhibition of access unless explicitly permitted.

Re: IPV6...

flamingbadger — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 10:23:53 GMT

Although it isn't a deal breaker for me, it would be nice to see Plus moving forward with more modern features even it if is just to show they are a progressive ISP. There doesn't appear to have been any move to support the faster fibre technologies or IPv6 despite trials.

Re: IPV6...

Baldrick1 — Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:13:52 GMT

Maybe it's not that Plusnet do not want to provide IPv6 but rather that their master's, BTplc, insist on keeping such restrictions in place on their budget ISP service to help justify the additional cost of BT Retail's offering.

Re: IPV6...

IngeJones — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:24:02 GMT

I have installed Nest Protect smoke alarms in my house, only to find that they require ipv6 to work reliably. Admittedly I had to do quite a bit of research before finding out that was the problem so it's hard to know exactly who is to blame here, me for not thinking hard enough about ipv6 details before purchase or Google for not making enough of an pre-sales issue of it, or Plusnet/BT for not enabling it. But it's costing me shedloads of wasted money

Re: IPV6...

Townman — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:38:34 GMT

Sounds like the product is not fit for purpose if it does not identify specific requirements.

Re: IPV6...

IngeJones — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:18:02 GMT

I do have my doubts about the Google product family...

Re: IPV6...

coofercat — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:21:55 GMT

Me too for IPv6 please.

Yes, I know that Facebook/Insta/Twitter/Google are on IPv4, and yes, I know that "nothing popular" is IPv6 only, and no, I don't have a "killer" use-case that can't be solved by jumping through some crazy hoops. But come on, it's the end of 2019, it's high time we had some IPv6.

I'm tech-savvy, I've got all the right equipment at home to make it work, I'm happy to agree to an "I won't bombard tech support with stupid questions about how to configure my router" type thing if there's an Early Adopters programme. I'll help out if I can to get this up and running - what do we need to do to make it happen?

Re: IPV6...

VileReynard — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:47:24 GMT

Have you got a IPV6 router?

I don't understand why these devices don't use non-routable IPV4 DHCP addresses if they are designed for home wifi use.

Re: IPV6...

gabrielhopkins — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:20:52 GMT

Just noticed this on IPV6 in general and Plusnet in particular (no official update)

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/10/update-on-ipv6-plans-for-virgin-media-talktalk-and-vodafone.html

Re: IPV6...

Baldrick1 — Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:21:13 GMT

It begs the question how this is handled on Plusnet’s infrastructure, For example is there an IP address for every subscriber or does it work the same way as party line telephone services did years ago but with more subscribers having to share a fixed pool of addresses? If so then I guess that it’s time to grab a fixed address.

Re: IPV6...

VileReynard — Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:27:43 GMT

If Plusnet wanted to use a pool of internal addresses, 10.xxx.xxx.xxx is available to them. 😁

Re: IPV6...

Strat — Sun, 03 Nov 2019 18:03:43 GMT

Moderators Note
This topic has been moved from Plusnet Feedback to IPv6 Trial.

Re: IPV6...

summers — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:50:35 GMT

In IPv6 is *really* needed, have you though about using 6in4 or 6to4 if your router supports it?

I use 6to4, and plusnet is good enough to route the packages. So I have a virtual IPv6 inside my home network.

Only hassle is as the Ipv6 has an encapulation of the router IPv4 address, everytime the ADSL connection breaks and gets restablished, if the IPv4 address changes - then all the local network IPv6 adresses need reasigning. Most IPv6 implimentation are set up with this in mind, e.g. I use stateless. This means that the updated IP adress propogates behinds the scene, and I don't need to do anything.

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MJN — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 13:14:44 GMT

Those with a 'need' (or even just a 'desire') have long since been using transition technologies like 6in4/6to4 but it is not a viable end-state and hence doesn't remove the push on Plusnet as an ISP to do their bit of providing native IPv6 support.

Re: IPV6...

VileReynard — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:14:45 GMT

One of the many things about IPV6 that mystifies me is that every device can have a routable address so if anyone can access it you have to forget about firewalls and just invite everyone in.

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coofercat — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:33:20 GMT

You don't *have* to forget about firewalls (and in fact, you're still going to need them) - but you forget all about NAT.