topic Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback in IPv6 Trial

IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

dave — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:37:08 GMT

We're currently running an IPv6 trial. At the moment the trial is closed to new applicants, should we have additional space we post a new thread asking for volunteers.
To the people taking part in the trial, here are a few useful links to test that you've got IPv6 set up:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ipv6/
http://ipv6-test.com/
http://testmyipv6.com/
Your accounts will have a single static IPv4 and a /56 Ipv6. Our DNS platform has yet to be upgraded to IPv6 so you will be assigned Hurricane Electric's DNS servers when you connect.
We've set up peering and transit over v4 and v6 but it's possible that some sites will take a different route over v6 to v4 as we don't peer with everyone over v6 that we peer with over v4 or they may host their v4 site at a different location to the v6.
We welcome all feedback on the trial, it would be helpful for everyone if you have any issues or questions to start a new thread within this trial for each issue.
Thanks,

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

SimonHobson — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:53:15 GMT

Well I've had my first test session.
On the upside, I can report that "it works".
On the downside there are some issues which I can't identify right now without a bit more testing. Things that seem to "just use IPv6" when using my HE tunnel don't seem to work as well with the Plusnet test account. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ipv6 consistently reports that I'm using IPv6 via HE tunnel, tends to report IPv4 (but it switches occasionally to IPv6) using Plusnet. Much the same story with http://ipv6-test.com.
As I say, I need to do more tests, which my mind is past doing tonight
Router details: Debian Linux Wheezy, 2.6.32, running as guest under Xen on HP Microserver (N36L model IIRC), with Shorewall & Shorewall6 to configure firewall rules. Wide-dhcp client to get prefix delegation from Plusnet (though I'm manually configuring addresses at the moment). As of Wednesday, using Openreach VDSL modem on FTTC
The other thing it's reminded me of is how much of a PITA it is renumbering your network

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

RPMozley — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 02:00:29 GMT

What browser / OS are you using to test Simon? I noted you mentioned using Safari in an earlier post (in my DNS issues thread), if you're using that on OSX 10.7 and above then it will indeed flip between IPv6 and IPv4 as it has a tendency to "use whichever is quickest". Best to check with another browser to be sure.

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

SimonHobson — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:21:33 GMT

Tried Firefox as well - got similar results.
As I said, I need to to more testing, and in particular make sure I've not made a silly config error !
I'll also need to put some time into tidying things up a bit. At present I have a long list of commands I copy & paste to switch between configs, but that only deals with the connectivity. It doesn't deal with renumbering internal devices, eg the servers that need to change from <prefix1>::21 to <prefix2>::21 and so on, nor does it alter the DNS. Once the IPv6 service is live then it's not an issue as it'll be a once only change to do manually.
I have established that Plusnet still need a DHCP6 client on my connection before they'll route IPv6.
In case anyone is interested, this is the list of steps I currently have to switch from my normal to test configs :
/etc/init.d/radvd stop
ip addr del <prefix1>::1/64 dev eth0
ifdown he-ipv6
ifdown plusnet
shorewall clear
shorewall6 clear
ifup plusnet-ipv6
sleep 10
shorewall -q start
dhcp6c -d -D -f ppp12 &
sleep 5
ip addr add <prefix2>00::1/64 dev eth0
ip addr add <prefix2>ff::1/64 dev ppp12
ip -6 route add default dev ppp12
/etc/init.d/radvd start
shorewall6 -q start

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

jelv — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:52:56 GMT

Well, with the help of Mr Google I'm slowly getting there with reconfiguring the TG582n. See http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,121285.0.html

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

jelv — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:00:36 GMT

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

w23 — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:01:49 GMT

Looking OK here.
Thinkbroadband IPv6 readiness test http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ipv6/test-ipv6.html# reports:
10/10 for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6
10/10 for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only
Test with IPv4 DNS record ok (2.842s) using ipv4
Test with IPv6 DNS record ok (1.603s) using ipv6
Test if your ISP's DNS server uses IPv6 ok (1.508s) using ipv6
Test with Dual Stack DNS record ok (1.878s) using ipv6
Test IPv4 without DNS ok (2.098s) using ipv4
Test IPv6 without DNS ok (1.630s) using ipv6
Test IPv6 large packet ok (1.625s) using ipv6

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

pwatson — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:11:20 GMT

Quote from: dave
We welcome all feedback on the trial, it would be helpful for everyone if you have any issues or questions to start a new thread within this trial for each issue.

You may get more visibility (and be helpful for others) if you start a new thread for each router type...

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

jelv — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:57:29 GMT

Good idea.
[iurl=http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,121285.0.html]TG582n[/iurl]

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

pjmarsh — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:51:58 GMT

After some initial issues getting the Billion 7800N working, and the 3 sites Dave posted about confirming everything is looking right, I've not really done any more testing, since it's been quite a busy weekend, though the connection has been used a fair bit, we haven't really noticed any difference (which is obviously a good thing). I'm not sure how much of the traffic would have been IPv6, but there was definatelty some time on google. I've not mentioned it to the wife yet, but she hasn't commented on any problems yet.
Thanks
Phil

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

w23 — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:51:35 GMT

Ping monitor up and running (once I worked out to use the router's assigned address and not the PC or the prefix):
My Broadband Ping

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

Picnic — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:37:06 GMT

Note to self, check here more often - if not you'll miss the trial

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

w23 — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:49:25 GMT

Quote from: dave
At the moment the trial is closed to new applicants, should we have additional space we post a new thread asking for volunteers.

@ Picnic, maybe still a chance later on (or maybe the trial will prove a total success and we'll all be offered IPv6 on our standard accounts).

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

SiPurdy — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:29:55 GMT

Quote from: dave
We're currently running an IPv6 trial. At the moment the trial is closed to new applicants, should we have additional space we post a new thread asking for volunteers.

Missed out on the first batch of accounts :(, would be nice if people who volunteered in the first batch where first in the queue for the second batch.

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

andybailey — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:20:33 GMT

Doh! Looks like I've missed out on the trial too. Must pop in here more often!
If you have more trial slots available I keen to have a go! I've got a Cisco RV180 router- supposed to be fully IPv6 compatible and one I've not seen mention so far! Might be a good one to add to the test list

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

chrcoluk — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:30:12 GMT

Quote from: SiPurdy
Quote from: dave
We're currently running an IPv6 trial. At the moment the trial is closed to new applicants, should we have additional space we post a new thread asking for volunteers.

Missed out on the first batch of accounts :(, would be nice if people who volunteered in the first batch where first in the queue for the second batch.

agreed.
I also hope the 2nd batch is bigger and within the expected 2 weeks as well, I was surprised how small this batch is. Although I do understand why I didnt get an account considering I am not even a activated plusnet customer yet.

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

paulmh5 — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:09:52 GMT

Quote from: chrcoluk
I also hope the 2nd batch is bigger and within the expected 2 weeks as well...

Hi, just to clarify the post by Dave said a couple of weeks rather than giving an actual number. As this is a small trial at the moment please don't expect hard and fast deadlines for when more accounts will be released. The process for creating test users is entirely manual so is not something we are planning to do a huge number of right now and obviously quite a few people will be on holiday over the Christmas period.
If it helps in any way the IPv6 world doesn't look much different to the IPv4 one after the initial shiny factor has worn off.

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

chrcoluk — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:27:38 GMT

understandable if 100s applied, but was barely 20 come on you know you can do it christmas present for the few remaining.
jim:quote

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

AndyH — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:10:53 GMT

When there is a move over to IPv6, end user routers are going to have to be far more simplified to setup IPv6 for the majority. Looking at some of the threads on here, it is a real battle with some routers at the moment and even the technically minded are struggling!

Re: IPv6 Trial Tests and Feedback

w23 — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:17:27 GMT

@ AndyH, I'm glad to say the Fritz!Box makes this (relatively) easy, just tick 'IPv6 support enabled', select 'Always use a native IPv6 connection' then, under 'Connection Settings' I chose the first option 'Automatically negotiate a global address'.
I have also left 'Use DHCPv6 Rapid Commit' ticked (default) and it all just seems to work.