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    <title>topic Re: Plusnet DNS Server stopping Apple Mail Client From Downloading Messages in My Router</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043006#M44415</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator's note:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Threads merged&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:56:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-04-11T13:56:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042960#M44394</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The iCloud app on my iPad is blocking certain emails, those with images attached, when I’m connected to my home broadband. If I go through the Gmail app on my iPad, all emails, including those sent to my iCloud account, are downloaded fully. &amp;nbsp;If I tether my iPad to my Samsung a13 and use its data connection, all emails, including those sent to my iCloud account, are downloaded fully. Apple says it’s something in the router which is preventing the iCloud emails downloading to the iCloud Mail app because there’s no issue if I use Gmail or my mobile phone. &amp;nbsp;Plusnet sent me a new router2 and said if that didn’t remedy it then it was an Apple issue. The new router has made no difference. &amp;nbsp;Has anyone else had this issue?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:27:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042960#M44394</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kev1960</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T07:27:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042961#M44395</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149048"&gt;@Kev1960&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Are the emails themselves being blocked, or just the images? The router would not 'block images'.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I seem to recall having a similar issue a while back, and it was actually a setting on the mail app on the phone/iPad.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042961#M44395</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T07:38:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042962#M44396</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149048"&gt;@Kev1960&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;as an experiment I posted your post in Copilot&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/jTd8w1x899KMdwxvyEQkR" target="_self"&gt;https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/jTd8w1x899KMdwxvyEQkR&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:51:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042962#M44396</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dan_the_Van</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T07:51:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042964#M44397</link>
      <description>...Impressive!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:01:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042964#M44397</guid>
      <dc:creator>pvmb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T08:01:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042965#M44398</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The emails get through but the images appear as empty boxes which, when touched, take you to the webpage of the sender e.g. Netflix or Amazon. In my discussions with Apple Support I went through all the security options including turning off certain privacy protocols but nothing worked.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:14:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042965#M44398</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kev1960</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T08:14:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042966#M44399</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149048"&gt;@Kev1960&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;do you have Plusnet Safeguard enabled ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042966#M44399</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:00:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042968#M44400</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;How do I find that out?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:31:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042968#M44400</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kev1960</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:31:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042969#M44401</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes. I’ve just found the Safeguard toggle and it’s turned on.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:34:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042969#M44401</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kev1960</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:34:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042970#M44402</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149048"&gt;@Kev1960&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Try turning it to 'off'. You &lt;STRONG&gt;may&lt;/STRONG&gt; need to reboot the router for the change to be effective, but I am not sure.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:37:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042970#M44402</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:37:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042971#M44403</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;You &lt;STRONG&gt;may&lt;/STRONG&gt; need to reboot the router&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You &lt;STRONG&gt;WILL&lt;/STRONG&gt; need to reboot the router (or disconnect/reconnect the PPPoE connection)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Safeguard works by assigning different DNS servers and they will only be assigned when the PPPoE connection is (re)established&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:41:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042971#M44403</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:41:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042972#M44404</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for doing that. It’s a very comprehensive reply to my query AND I can understand most of the suggestions. I’m just cautious when it comes to doing things like - turning off Safeguard on the router - changing DNS configurations- disabling IPv6 on the router. &amp;nbsp;What are the drawbacks of doing these things? &amp;nbsp;Will it make my use of the internet less secure or less private?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:41:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042972#M44404</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kev1960</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:41:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042973#M44405</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;You &lt;STRONG&gt;may&lt;/STRONG&gt; need to reboot the router&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You &lt;STRONG&gt;WILL&lt;/STRONG&gt; need to reboot the router (or disconnect/reconnect the PPPoE connection)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Safeguard works by assigning different DNS servers and they will only be assigned when the PPPoE connection is (re)established&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for confirming what I suspected,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- having no need of 'Safeguard', I have never looked at it, so was slightly unsure of the procedure.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:45:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042973#M44405</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:45:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042974#M44406</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149048"&gt;@Kev1960&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Just try turning safeguard off - unless you have children who may 'stumble' on possibly unsuitable content, it will not have any effect on your security.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:48:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042974#M44406</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:48:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042977#M44407</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why might safeguarding inhibit downloading images in the iCloud app but not in the Gmail app?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:54:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042977#M44407</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:54:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042978#M44408</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I dont know exactly but from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/621"&gt;@Dan_the_Van&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;s link previously&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Apple Mail doesn’t download images directly from the sender’s server. It routes them through Apple’s privacy infrastructure (Mail Privacy Protection, iCloud Private Relay, etc.).&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;whereas AIUI Gmail downloads them directly&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:57:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042978#M44408</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T09:57:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042992#M44409</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you - that is illuminating on a number of fronts …&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;There is a clear explanation of why things might be different with different clients over a PN connection&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Why might the iCloud privacy services be black balked by the safeguard service&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If turning off safeguarding allows the images to be downloaded by the Apple Mail app, then the safeguarding configuration needs review.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/14"&gt;@bobpullen&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;would you know if this has been seen elsewhere within the scope of the BT safeguarding service?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 11:50:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042992#M44409</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T11:50:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Plusnet DNS Server stopping Apple Mail Client From Downloading Messages</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042999#M44413</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thought I'd share this in case it helps anyone.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I recently, I had a problem with Apple devices not downloading mail using the Apple Mail App.&amp;nbsp; It would either show "Downloading" or "Connecting" or "Checking for mail".&amp;nbsp; On one iPad it could hang indefinitely.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;On another iPad it would take&amp;nbsp; exactly 60 seconds before starting to download the mail.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think the cause is the Plusnet SafeGuard DNS server.&amp;nbsp; (Primary 213.120.234.38,&amp;nbsp;Secondary 213.120.234.42).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I change the DNS servers to use a public DNS server like Google's 8.8.8.8 or Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 everything runs normally.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have now switched to Cloudflare's DNS for Families on 1.1.1.3 which still filters content but allowing Apple Mail App to run normally.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:32:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2042999#M44413</guid>
      <dc:creator>croc345</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T13:32:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet router blocking iCloud emails</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043001#M44411</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There's another similar report here of Safeguard interfering with the Apple mail client&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-DNS-Server-stopping-Apple-Mail-Client-From-Downloading/m-p/2042999#M44410" target="_blank"&gt;https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-DNS-Server-stopping-Apple-Mail-Client-From-Downloading/m-p/2042999#M44410&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:37:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043001#M44411</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T13:37:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet DNS Server stopping Apple Mail Client From Downloading Messages</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043002#M44414</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/102462"&gt;@croc345&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;thanks for that. I've added a link to this thread regarding a similar problem which seems like it may be due to Safeguard&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/td-p/2042960/highlight/false" target="_blank"&gt;https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/td-p/2042960/highlight/false&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:39:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043002#M44414</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T13:39:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet DNS Server stopping Apple Mail Client From Downloading Messages</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043006#M44415</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator's note:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Threads merged&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:56:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Plusnet-router-blocking-iCloud-emails/m-p/2043006#M44415</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-11T13:56:49Z</dc:date>
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