topic Re: Modem mode in My Router

Modem mode

Pedro78 — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:20:29 GMT

Hi, new To Plusnet and I have a couple of questions.

I wish to use my own gaming router so I want the Hub 2 in modem mode. I know it's called bridge mode in there is that right? so I select that then plug my gaming router into the WAN port right? I have BB through a phone line (70Mbps). I've search but found conflicting information.

Q2, Can I use my own modem?

Thanks

Re: Modem mode

bobpullen — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:23:41 GMT

Assuming you don't have a Full Fibre connection (i.e. the router plugs into your phone line, and not an Openreach ONT on the wall), then you would need to enable bridge mode on the Hub Two and connect an ethernet cable from the WAN port of your gaming router, to one of the first three LAN ports on the Hub Two. The gaming router will need manually configuring to use PPPoE and your Plusnet broadband username/password i.e. <username>@plusdsl.net and the password you use to log into the Plusnet website.

What make/model is the gaming router?

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:31:24 GMT

ASUS RT-AC59U

I was using it on Virgin Media , I put VM modem into modem mode and that was it.

Regards

Re: Modem mode

bobpullen — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:24:20 GMT

Thanks, it'll be a similar setup on the Plusnet line but you will need to configure the PPP credentials as per my last post.

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:50:00 GMT

Excuse my ignorance but, isn't that what the hub 2 is for? to establish the connection and then pass that internet connection on to the WAN port and then onto my gaming router? not following why I need to put my login into the gaming router?

Re: Modem mode

RealAleMadrid — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:54:27 GMT

@Pedro78 In bridge mode the HUB2 is a dumb modem, it does nothing to authenticate the dsl connection it just passes data through to the router, that is why the username and password have to be configured in the router and connect via PPPoE to the modem.

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:57:14 GMT

Right, that makes sense thank you. So yeah looks like I'll just carry on they I'm doing it now. Standard Hub2 settings (although I switch the wifi off) and plug my gaming router into one of the ports 😕

Re: Modem mode

RealAleMadrid — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:09:32 GMT

@Pedro78 So you are not going to use bridge mode? I wonder why? It is the recommended way to use your own router or you will end up with both the HUB2 and your router giving out IP addresses which can cause problems, such as the double NAT situation. (Google it). Definitely not good for gaming.😫

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:19:03 GMT

Yeah I get what you're saying. The double NAT thing and all that, although it's a gaming router, I don't use it for that (I don't online game) I use it for the very wide wifi coverage, the ping / latency isn't mega important to me. If I can find a decent ADSL router at an acceptable price, by all means, I'll go down that route.

Re: Modem mode

markhawkin — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:11:16 GMT

@Pedro78

For what it's worth, I would do as others suggest and put your Hub 2 in bridge mode.

The setup is then very similar to what you had with Virgin Media.

When (eventually) Openreach fibre turns up you could then use your router with that and you would no longer need the Hub 2 (or similar).

There are other approches to routers and for many a mesh system suits but if your ASUS RT-AC59U does what you want at the moment I would stick with it and have minimal change.

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:59:31 GMT

Thanks.

In bridge mode I'll still need to buy a DSL router though won't I?

Regards

Re: Modem mode

markhawkin — Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:33:26 GMT

@Pedro78

No, the Hub 2 will act as a modem and your ASUS RT-AC59U is the router.

The connections are:

phoneline -> Hub 2 -> Ethernet cable -> Asus WAN port (the Blue one)

The Asus has the settings (as earlier in the thread) and it should "just work".

Nothing more to buy.

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 07:51:23 GMT

Ok, this is what I was asking in the beginning of the thread, and people were saying "The gaming router will need manually configuring to use PPPoE and your Plusnet broadband username/password "

So you're saying what I suspected originally is actually correct, I can just put the Hub 2 into Modem (bridge) mode, and plug my router into the WAN port, and I'm off?

Regards

Re: Modem mode

RealAleMadrid — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:15:03 GMT

@Pedro78 You have just about got it right, but have a read of message #2 from Bob Pullen. you connect the WAN port of your router to one of the LAN ports of the HUB2. Not the WAN port which is used as an input to the HUB from an external modem or more often these days an Openreach ONT for FTTP.

Re: Modem mode

MisterW — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:30:50 GMT

But the router WAN connection will need to be changed to pppoe and username/password entered. Its not difficult but it IS different to the virgin configuration, that uses dhcp which is what the Asus defaults to

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:12:29 GMT

@RealAleMadrid, ok NOT the WAN port. Got it, thanks.

@MisterW To enter those details, I need a DSL router, don't I?

Re: Modem mode

bobpullen — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:32:09 GMT

@Pedro78 wrote:

@RealAleMadrid, ok NOT the WAN port. Got it, thanks.

@MisterW To enter those details, I need a DSL router, don't I?

No. The only thing that needs to have DSL capability is the modem (in this case, the Hub Two in bridge mode). The router behind it is irrelevant as it isn't responsible for establishing the DSL link with the local cabinet.

Why not take a look at the Asus WAN settings when you get a minute? Fairly certain you'll find an option for a PPPoE connection that has fields for entering a username and password.

Re: Modem mode

RealAleMadrid — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:41:36 GMT

@Pedro78 This thread seems to be going round in circles.

Look at section 4.3 WAN in this document Asus RT-AC59U User Guide

Wan Connection Type: PPPoE

Authentication Drop down menu: One of the options will be username and password

That's all it needs.

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:52:43 GMT

@bobpullen

@RealAleMadrid

Thanks for your patience!

I thought PPPoE settings only existed on DSL modems, obviously I was wrong. Forgive me, been on configurationless (is that even a word?) Virgin for years!

At work ATM, will check as soon as I'm home.

Thanks again!

Re: Modem mode

Pedro78 — Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:05:10 GMT

Ok there's the settings! ,as well as the user/pass ect, there's a zillion other things, do I just leave them blank?