topic Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats? in My Router

Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Tue, 10 May 2022 12:33:30 GMT

I'm about to setup my hub 2 in bridge mode (connected to an openwrt box) but I'm wondering if its possible to still connect to it to pull stats about sync speed? Most routers will still respond on a pre-configured IP address when in bridge mode. Is this the case on the hub 2? Documentation on bridge mode seems almost non-existent

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

MisterW — Tue, 10 May 2022 12:48:35 GMT

I believe it will respond ( probably on its default IP address 192.168.1.254 ) to a client connected to one of its LAN ports. However its DHCP server is disabled so you will need to set a static IP ( in the 192.168.1.x subnet ) on the client

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Tue, 10 May 2022 14:19:14 GMT

Yep, it does respond on whichever IP it had before bridge mode was enabled, its managed to keep an IP on a different subnet which is perfect for me. I added a static IP on my wan interface and can reach it from my openwrt box. Thanks @MisterW

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

MisterW — Tue, 10 May 2022 14:46:23 GMT

Yep, it does respond on whichever IP it had before bridge mode was enabled

Thanks, that's useful info. I had assumed it would revert to its default but it seems not.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

Dan_the_Van — Tue, 10 May 2022 15:05:26 GMT

I used a different approach.

For bridge mode you connect any LAN port of the Hub two to the WAN port of your router.

I then connected another LAN port of the Hub Two to a LAN port of the router.

I gave a PC a second IP address in the Hub Two network range.

For this to work the Hub Two and Routers network ranges must not be the same, in my case 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.10.0/24

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Tue, 10 May 2022 15:29:06 GMT

Yep, that would work too, in my case I just added a secondary IP to the wan interface (so theres one pppoe and one static IP) and saves myself and ethernet cable

Annoyingly the stats from the hub 2 no longer include the DSL sync speed in the output, which kinda defeats the object for me

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

Dan_the_Van — Tue, 10 May 2022 15:45:05 GMT

I am unable to add a static IP address to my router.

Yes, the viewable data is a bit restricted, also the date/time will be wrong in the event of power cut, restarts at 01 Oct 00:00.

One positive you can turn off the led if you want 🙂

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Tue, 10 May 2022 16:04:01 GMT

After a bit more digging I can see the "Maximum data rate" on the "technical log" page (/helpdesk.htm) but the actual "data rate" fields are empty. Checking the javascript being returned when the browser views the page (globals.js) I can see the actual values..

var current_linestatus=[{state:'UP',mode:'VDSL2',mod_type:'Profile%2017a',snr_margin_down:'60',snr_margin_up:'78',latn_down:'175',latn_up:'87',satn_down:'227',satn_up:'87',output_power_down:'133',output_power_up:'75',rate_down:'69827',rate_up:'19999',attainable_rate_down:'70628000',attainable_rate_up:'22394000',chantype:'fast'}, null];

they must be hiding the values elsewhere in the js. I'll knock a script up to monitor it

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

bobpullen — Tue, 10 May 2022 18:39:40 GMT

@jeffers can you do me a favour and post screenshots of both the Advanced Settings > Broadband and Advanced Settings > Technical Log (and any other areas of the GUI where you'd expect to see the DSL data rate)?

I'm of the opinion that this information should still be exposed and it shouldn't be too tricky to achieve if like you say - the detail is being returned in the javascript.

I can think of any reason it would have been intentionally obscured to be honest so will look into getting that behaviour 'corrected'.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Wed, 11 May 2022 07:14:11 GMT

@bobpullen Sure, here you go.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

MisterW — Wed, 11 May 2022 07:42:46 GMT

My guess would be that since there's no PPPoE connection ( which there wouldn't be in bridge mode ) then the gui isnt bothering to show the connection data. As Bob say's, it looks like a firmware bug.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

bobpullen — Wed, 11 May 2022 12:26:03 GMT

@jeffers - thanks. Now raised for investigation/consideration.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

rmappleby — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 12:14:36 GMT

Hi @jeffers did you ever write those scripts to monitor the line stats? I have the same setup as you (OpenWRT router running the Hub2 in bridge mode, with an extra static IP on the WAN device) and would be love to be able to avoid reinventing the wheel if you got it all working.

Thanks
RIchard

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

rmappleby — Mon, 08 Aug 2022 10:05:32 GMT

In response to my own post, @jeffers has posted details of his script here: https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Monitoring-Hub-two-line-stats/m-p/1871416

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

jeffers — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:32:02 GMT

Sorry, it seems forum notifications have stopped working. Glad you found it, let me know if I can help with anything

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

rmappleby — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 12:47:34 GMT

Thanks, I'm just getting the environment set up. Used to use RRDTool for time series stuff, but Influxdb appears to be leaps and bounds more flexible. Looking forward to seeing how it all fits together. Will give you a ping if I run into any problems!

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

bobpullen — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 22:59:59 GMT

In way of an update on the firmware front, the sync rate should make it's way into the next firmware all being well. The other parameters won't likely show until a subsequent build.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

rmappleby — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 20:31:27 GMT

Thanks @bobpullen - does the Hub 2 auto-update its firmware still when it's running in bridge mode?

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

bobpullen — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 23:01:25 GMT

I believe it will need to be acting as the PPP client in order to download the latest firmware. I'll drop a note here when it's available.

Re: Plusnet Hub 2 bridge mode - possible to get line stats?

Dan_the_Van — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:17:25 GMT

@bobpullen a further question, does Hub Two drop off the CWMP/TR069 system if it been running as a modem for a period of time?

A feature request would the ability to setup Date and Time when in bridge mode, currently mine thinks it's 02 Dec after been up for 62 days

Thanks