topic Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet in My Router

WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:20:58 GMT

I live in a shared house with a Hub One router. We have a couple of computers connected by Ethernet, and a dozen or more devices that connect via WiFi.

Since the start of lockdown, we have been having intermittent problems with the WiFi, and in the last couple of weeks they have become more frequent.

The problem is that the WiFi loses its connection to the Internet. When it gets in this state:

* The computers connected by Ethernet can access the internet normally

* The mobile devices have a strong WiFi signal.

* The mobile devices say they are connected to the in-house network

* The router (accessed via http://dsldevice.lan) lists the various devices as connected

BUT these devices connected cannot actually access the internet. Attempts to load web pages or similar fail with messages about not being connected.

Last year, we were advised to disable the 5GHz Wi Fi. For a long while, that seemed to fix things. But now the problem is occurring again.

Re-starting the router restores normal operation.

So, too, does disabling the 2.4GHz WiFi, and then re-enabling it.

In both cases, as soon as the WiFi comes back, the devices reconnect and work normally.

Anybody got any idea what is happening? How to fix this?

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

dvorak — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:30:46 GMT

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Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gel — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 13:49:30 GMT

Use forum's SEARCH box and search for "wifi issues".

Re enable 5ghz band but change it's SSID, so is separate to 2.4gh id.

PN supplied HUBONE router has very poor performance wifi wise; consider alternative one.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gandalf — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 16:36:00 GMT

Thanks for your post @robertii and welcome to our Community Forums.

I'm sorry to see you're having issues with your wireless signal.

Based on the behaviour you've described and that your router's almost 6 years old, I've arranged to send you a new one.

Can you let us know how it goes once you've got it?

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:23:46 GMT

Will do.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gandalf — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:35:32 GMT

Thanks @robertii

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Thu, 09 Sep 2021 22:49:03 GMT

Hi, Gandalf,

The new router has arrived. But the interesting news is...

I phoned support on Saturday, before I saw your post here, and spoke to someone. He told me that all routers (including mine) had had software upgrades that fixed the bug caused by having the 5GHz wifi active, so there was no reason for me to leave mine deactivated.

He also said he thought that the problem I was seeing was caused by interference from one or more other nearby WiFi networks, and suggested that I manually re-configure my hub to change the channel for the 2.4GHz wifi. I had tried that last year, when I'd first had the problem, and it had not helped. But I thought that if the hub had been updated, it might be worth trying again. So on Sunday I re-enabled the 5GHz and configured the 2.4GHz to use Channel 3 (rather than 11). And so far, everything has been working properly -- I have not had a recurrence of the disconnection.

I would really like to know whether changing the channel on the updated router has actually fixed the problem. So I'm thinking to continue to use my original router, on its new channel, at least until it fails again.

I'll post an update here either when it next fails, or at the end of the month if the old router is still working and the problem really is fixed.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

adam945 — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:47:30 GMT

Good morning @robertii

Thanks a lot for reaching out and for letting us know that changing the wireless band and WIFI channel settings on your router has fixed the problem for the time being. These are my "go to" things when customers have contacted us about their WIFI service.

We have a handy little tool on our end called "Smart Wireless" which scans your local network, and puts the router onto the best channels for your environment. I also tend to split the SSID's as well. For me, this has worked a treat so far.

It's important to acknowledge that while a certain WIFI channel might work well at first, it can become clogged up over time. I'd suggest downloading a WIFI scanner though, which will work similarly to our Smart Wireless tool and will scan your local area. You'd then need to manually adjust the WIFI channel accordingly.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:57:13 GMT

So the good news was that with the old router, re-enabling 5GHz and switching to Channel 3 pretty well stabilised the situation. We sometimes had to re-start it, but only once a week or thereabouts.

But in the last week or so, things have fallen apart and we are currently getting devices disconnecting from the wifi every few hours, even though they are showing reasonable (i.e. two bars) of WiFi signal.

Sometimes they re-connect (after a few of minutes), but typically we have to switch off the WiFi and then re-enable it, at which point everything re-connects and we get a period of good service.

I wondered whether the new router you sent (same model) would make a difference. It doesn't. It seems to be the same.

I have a tablet running a wifi scanner ("WiFi Analyzer"). It shows that there are other networks in the area, but none on channel 3, and all at least 15 dB down.

So what now?

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:42:25 GMT

And now, my phone has just spent 5 minutes being told it has the wrong password for the WiFi.

Even though it had been on the network all morning.

And then, just as suddenly, it was OK again.

What the ... ?

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gandalf — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:37:04 GMT

Hi @robertii

I'm sorry to see you're having issues still.

Can you find out what software version your router's running out?

If you're unsure how, go to http://192.168.1.254 and it should say at the bottom of the page.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:13:49 GMT

Well, having the problem "again" more than "still". It was "a nuisance" from when I first posted in early September until maybe a week or so ago.

But in the last week or so, we've had devices disconnecting "all the time"

I happen to have a printout of a settings page from the old hub.

It was running version 4.7.5.1.83.8.289.1.1 (Last updated 14/07/2

But the year is missing from the printout!

The NEW hub -- the one sent in September -- is running 4.7.5.1.83.8.263 (Last updated "Unknown").

I started using the new one a couple of days ago, since "you" were sure to ask whether it was any better.

But it isn't -- I think it is actually worse, though it is hard to be sure.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gandalf — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:11:46 GMT

Thanks for getting back to me @robertii

The new router is on an older firmware version with some known WiFi issues but your previous router is on our latest firmware. It may be worth posting in the topic Here to ask that we push this same firmware down to your new router.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:17:47 GMT

Thanks, @Gandalf I have done that. Hopefully the update will get me back to where I was.

But I think I'm still not going to be out of the woods: I switched to the new hub because the old one (which is/was on 289) started falling about. And I'm not sure what to do/try next.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

RealAleMadrid — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:53:06 GMT

@robertii Both of your routers are not on the latest firmware. version 4.7.5.1.83.8.289.1.3 is the latest and being rolled out to all Hub1 customers. That will not be quick though so worth posting as suggested by @Gandalf

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 13:22:06 GMT

Did that this morning...

( https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Hub-One-5GHz-WiFi-issue/m-p/1842345#M29508 )

so holding my breath...

Well, checking that thread occasionally, anyway!

From what I can see, the hub will restart itself the night after the update has been pushed.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

Gandalf — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 17:19:06 GMT

Thanks for getting back to me @robertii and sorry for the delayed response.

Fingers crossed updating the firmware on your new router helps improve things. Not sure there's anything further we can do if it doesn't though without going into the realms of buying your own router or some sort of WiFi booster.

Let us know how it goes.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

robertii — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 12:34:24 GMT

So right now, @Gandalf , things seem to be reasonably stable.

@bobpullen pushed an update to my hub at the end of last month -- it is now 4.7.5.1.83.8.289.1.3.

Wifi isn't perfect -- it does "pause" from time to time -- long enough for my phone to give up and switch to 4G.

But these are problems with a system that is basically working, as opposed to a yo yo, which is what it was like.

Re: WiFi disconnecting from internet

TheMightyAJ — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:31:46 GMT

Hey @robertii,

I'm glad to hear that there's been some improvement there. Please give us a shout if there are any issues and we'll be happy to pick this back up for further review.