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Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:49:04 GMT

I currently have a Plusnet router with a telephone cable going into it. is it possible to upgrade to a wifi 6 router, I can see there is no option to directly input telephone cable. Thisis the one I am looking at

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08CBC2WH2/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=virtua01-21&creative=6738&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08CBCR6BB&linkId=10e7a114e76bbcb1789f273fc7f08ce8&th=1

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Baldrick1 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:02:39 GMT

@Jonathanwilcox8

This is a router. The Hub One is a combined modem/router. You can use one but you will also need to buy a separate modem.

In my opinion a super expensive router is not always the best solution to wireless problems. What precisely is your problem?

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:08:14 GMT

I need to send video wireless from PC to an Oculus vR headset.

can you recommend a modem

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bill888 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:22:41 GMT

Modem options

https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/What-is-a-suitable-VDSL-modem-for-ASUS-RT-AC86U/td-p/1737511

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:25:05 GMT

can I do this >

@scobiehague

Alternatively you could use the Hub One. All that you need to do is turn off the Hub One wireless, set up your Asus router in Access Point mode, connect it to a Hub One LAN socket and job done with modern hardware and zero cost.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bill888 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 01:50:47 GMT

Access Point mode in the RT-AX82u would work.

I'm hesitant about recommending it because you are looking to spend almost 180 quid on the RT-AX82u. By using Access Point mode, you may discover some of the other extra features offered by the Asus, are disabled when in Access Point mode.

fwiw, there is a cheap n cheerful wifi 6 router posted on Hotukdeals for £49.99 for Huawei/Honor 3 router. I believe it offers Access Point mode too.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/huawei-honor-router-3-wifi-6-3000mbps-wireless-router-ps4999-delivered-at-honor-3566643

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 07:30:01 GMT

is this the only option I have, I just need a router that will transfer video over wifi at around 800mbps

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bill888 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:45:55 GMT

I'm unclear by what you mean by 'only option' ?

There are no all-in-one Wifi 6 modem-routers on the market at present. Wifi 6 is still relatively new. A VDSL modem-router product will eventually appear with a high price tag. May have to wait a year or two.

I'm don't own Oculus VR products, but quick google search brought up this page recommending Wifi 6 router without specifying how many streams the Oculus product supports.

https://www.androidcentral.com/does-oculus-quest-2-support-wi-fi-6

There are numerous Wifi 6 routers on the market. Some are better than others. Only advice is read the Amazon reviews and decide.

fwiw, one mention of imported chinese version of Honor router 3 working with Oculus Quest 2. Unclear if it is in normal router mode (perhaps wired to Virgin cable modem) or as an Access Point wired to any other ISP superfast router.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/huawei-honor-router-3-wifi-6-3000mbps-wireless-router-ps3583-delivered-at-aliexpress-deals-vstar-technology-3563546

imho, if you were to buy an expensive RT-AX82u, you could try it in Access Point mode, then later buy a VDSL bridge modem if you decide you wish to use the other features offered by the Asus.

I can only suggest you buy a router from a retailer that has a good Returns/Refunds policy in case you change your mind.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Baldrick1 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 10:11:56 GMT

@Jonathanwilcox8 wrote:

I need to send video wireless from PC to an Oculus vR headset.

There seems to be a few missing bits of information that everyone is ignoring:

1.Is the PC also connected wirelessly? If so how far is it from the router? Are they in the same room?

2. How far is the VR headset from the router? Again, in the same room?

I would think that the best arrangement would be for the lot to be in the same room with the PC connected via an Ethernet cable. If necessary run an Ethernet cable to the PC from the Hub and also to where you use the headset and there fit a WiFi 6 WAP for a lot less money.

If they are in the same room and the PC connected via Ethernet the chances are that a £20 Smarthub 6 would do the job on the 5GHz band.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 10:10:43 GMT

Yes, Thanks everyone. My PC is connected via ethernet and VR is in Same Room.

what WIFI 6 WAP can I use. also how do I set this up.

sorry, everything is so complicated

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Baldrick1 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 10:24:00 GMT

@Jonathanwilcox8

I know that WiFi 6 is very modern and trendy but do you really need it? I would think that the average WAP with a 5GHz 802.11 ac band would do the job. Unless anyone knows differently?

On second thoughts it is pushing it a bit!

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 10:44:07 GMT

I not sure . But if I did want to add WiFi 6 to Plusnet router , what would I need and how can this be set up

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 14:51:07 GMT

could someone help? just need to find something on amazon that will suit and how would I go about setting up

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 14:58:22 GMT

I been lookingg at this, I think 5gh will be fine. not sure if this router any good tho ? or if its copyable with plus net ?

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bill888 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:17:39 GMT

@Jonathanwilcox8 wrote:
I not sure . But if I did want to add WiFi 6 to Plusnet router , what would I need and how can this be set up

Already been answered, even by yourself!

If you must use Plusnet router, you will need a wifi 6 router which supports Access Point mode. (Preferred option would be to buy a VDSL bridged modem to wire up to any wifi 6 router you choose to buy, but if you don't wish to do so for time being, so be it)

https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-AX82U/specifications/

Stay away from Dlink routers. Historically, they do not have Access Point mode. Most Linksys and TPlink routers offer Access Point mode nowadays. Even the £50 Honor Router 3 offers access point mode.

Sorry, I cannot recommend which is best. They are all '1st generation' Wifi 6 products so may have issues. Check Amazon reviews and decide for yourself how much you wish to spend and what the reviews are like. Amazon has a tendency of combining reviews for multiple products. Someone else may be able to make a recommendation. (The RT-AX82u seems like 'overkill' to me but that's just my opinion)

Instructions for setting up Access Point mode will vary between manufacturers. Some even use a phone app, but most will usually run through a Quick setup wizard in a web browser, asking you simple questions like do you want to use it in Access Point (some times called Bridge) mode.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:26:32 GMT

Would this work with plusnet . I think 5ghz may be fine for oculas

TP-Link AC2800 Dual Band Wireless MU-MIMO Gigabit VDSL/ADSL Modem Router for Phone Line Connections (BT Infinity, TalkTalk, EE and PlusNet Fibre, 2 USB 3.0 Ports, UK Plug (Archer VR2800)) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06WD4RVL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MHVLFbKXH07R2

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bill888 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:30:33 GMT

Yes, all VDSL modem routers sold by Amazon will work on Plusnet. It would replace the Plusnet Hub. This model does not have Wifi 6 though. The TPlink is a Wifi 5 model.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:51:58 GMT

Yes , I am guessing that will be fine for time being . Will WiFi 5 be a lot faster than plusnet ?

Or do you recommend a better router ?

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

bobpullen — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:15:19 GMT

@Jonathanwilcox8 wrote:

I need to send video wireless from PC to an Oculus vR headset.

What model? Neither the Quest 1, Go or the Rift support Wi-Fi 6. I think only the Quest 2 does.

@Jonathanwilcox8 wrote:

is this the only option I have, I just need a router that will transfer video over wifi at around 800mbps

800mbps!? What exactly are you trying to do? You need about 8-12mbps for a typical 1080p stream.

I have a Quest 1 and have few issues streaming either video (Skybox) or games (Virtual Desktop) to the headset. Using a Plusnet Hub One at the moment. The important thing to note, is that you will need to be connected to the 5GHz radio for it to be usable i.e. the headset will need to be close to the router.

What router do you have?

@bill888 wrote:
fwiw, one mention of imported chinese version of Honor router 3 working with Oculus Quest 2. Unclear if it is in normal router mode (perhaps wired to Virgin cable modem) or as an Access Point wired to any other ISP superfast router. https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/huawei-honor-router-3-wifi-6-3000mbps-wireless-router-ps3583-delivered-at-aliexpress-deals-vstar-technology-3563546 f

You can buy these direct from Honor for fifty quid. I've used one for a bit. It was OK but nothing groundbreaking, and unless you have Wi-Fi 6 compatible devices, the 5GHz performance is probably on par with most other cheap/mid range routers. It has 2 antenna dedicated to 5GHz (the Hub One has 3), so theoretical speed is ~866mbps (theoretical speed != the speed you will get). Didn't really notice much difference when it came to streaming from desktop > VR headset. Also of note is the fact that it does not have an integrated modem.

Re: Wifi 6 Router.

Jonathanwilcox8 — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:39:51 GMT

Thanks for the reply. will the TP-Link AC2800 be Quicker / Better than the Plusnet Hub one

I have a quest 2, router will be within 2 meters of headset play area