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Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:45:41 GMT

Hi,

I have registered on the forum this morning in my desperation at the consistent failures of my adsl/wifi and note a previous post with exactly the same issues that i have been suffering. I hope it is ok, I have described my issue and conducted the suggested tests for hopefully, assistance/guidance from the forum community.

I am using the Plusnet supplied router and this is a problem that since I joined up in about June 2020 has been intermittent, but the past month, has been increasingly frequent, particularly noticeable on the weekend when i am home most of the day the wifi stops, and when reconnects our devices indicates wifi connected but no internet.

I had talk talk before and never once had the connection/wifi been interrrupted.

On a weekend day this can happen now 5-6 times, 3 times this morning alone, is very frustrating, especially for daughter and wife and their studies and video streaming, thus my quest for a solution.

I have separated the frequency bands, I have stopped 2.4gHz wifi and have all devices use 5ghz wifi only to no avail!

I have attached the reported of the recommended tests and would be so very grateful for guidance.

Matthew

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:45:04 GMT

the other test attached here , thanks

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:53:20 GMT

i completed the quiet line test and there was no noise, apologies i originally forgot to complete this.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Mustrum — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:59:31 GMT

Not sure why you are posting in the ADSL forum when you have FTTC/VDSL?

Are you able to log into the router, go to Advanced settings / Troubleshooting and post the Help Desk tab?

There is a widely reported issue with WiFi on the Hub 1, you may need the latest firmware.

Also, if you were to switch a band off, you would be better using just the 2.4 one.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Strat — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 13:03:14 GMT

Moderators Note
This topic has been moved from ADSL Broadband to Fibre Broadband.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:48:54 GMT

Hi Mustrum,

APologies for posting in the wrong forum. I have attached the helpdesk screen, I note your suggestion to use 2.4ghz preferably over 5ghz if to switch one off.

Hoping its a firmware update that might solve the problem.

Thank you for your time.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Mustrum — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 13:33:09 GMT

As suspected, you are on the troublesome firmware - if you look in the router forum you will find a long thread with similar issues. If you post a request for an update - quote your serial number and firmware as others do, you should be undated.

https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Hub-One-5GHz-WiFi-issue/m-p/1696363#M15510

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:50:12 GMT

Thanks I will do that and update the outcome here.

Many thanks for your time.e!

Moderator's note by Dick (Strat): Personal information removed from a public forum (to an area that staff can see).

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

adam945 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:08:34 GMT

Hello @Matt72

Thanks a lot for reaching out and I'm really sorry for the connection issues that you're having at the moment. I think there's more to this issue than a firmware update though. A visual radius shows multiple drop outs per day, but when testing the line itself, it's borderline perfect!

Are you rebooting your router quite often? If not, I'd suggest having a read through our Troubleshooting Guide to see if you're able to resolve this issue sooner.

While troubleshooting, if you can, please remove the faceplate from the front of your master socket, and connect directly into he test socket which lies behind it. Avoid using any extension cables between your socket and router as well.

If that doesn't fix the issue, please let us know, and we'll get a fault raised with our suppliers for further investigation.

Just a heads up as well, I'm going to raise your previous post with your helpdesk attachment with our moderators as it contains private account information on there.

KBD

GEA Test Detail
Circuit ID	NA	Service ID


Test Outcome	Pass
Test Outcome Code	GTC_FTTC_SERVICE_0000
Description	GEA service test completed and no fault found .
Main Fault Location	OK
Sync Status	In Sync
Downstream Speed	79.9 Mbps
Upstream Speed	20.0 Mbps
Appointment Required	N
Fault Report Advised	N
NTE Power Status	PowerOn
Voice Line Test Result	Pass
Radio Frequency Ingress	Not Detected
Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise	Not Detected
Cross Talk	Not Detected
Estimated Line Length In Metres	387.3
Upstream Rate Assessment	Very Good
Downstream Rate Assessment	Very Good
Interference Pattern	Regular Interference Observed Daily
Service Impact	Retrains Observed
Interference Duration Longest Occurrence	From17:45to18:15
Interference Location	Unknown
Interference Observed In Days	3
Home Wiring Problem	Not Detected
Downstream Policing Discard Rate	0.0
Customer Traffic Level	Upstream and Downstream traffic detected
Technology	VDSL
Current 15Min Bin Retrains	0
Last 15Min Bin Retrains	0
DP Type	External
Profile Name	0.128M-80M Downstream, Retransmission Low - 0.128M-20M Upstream, Error Protection Off
Time Stamp	2021-11-01T16:00:00

Parameters	MIN	MAX	AVG
Down Stream Line Rate	79.9 Mbps	79.9 Mbps	79.9 Mbps
Up Stream Line Rate	20.0 Mbps	20.0 Mbps	20.0 Mbps
Up Time	396.0 Sec	900.0 Sec	896.1 Sec
Retrains	0.0	3.0	0.0

Radius

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:54:11 GMT

Thanks Adam,

I have removed the faceplate as suggested and reconnected, to see if that improves the situation, I will report back.

I note my error, hence your referral to the moderators, I apologise for this careless oversight.

Thanks again

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:23:30 GMT

Hi @adam945,

Removing the face plate and reconnecting the wire to the connection behind did not make any difference.

Matthew

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 19:49:45 GMT

@adam945

Some further information, there have been ALOT more disconnections this evening, almost hourly!

When restarting the router, the bar light is green, then orange flashing and solid and then whilst the bar is orange, the orange b light is illuminated and eventually the bar becomes blue.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

adam945 — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:45:26 GMT

Thanks a lot for getting back to me @ Matt72

Please stay connected into your test socket for now, as it gives us a better idea into where the source of this issue lies. Tests on the line this morning have again shown no fault with the network, and the visual radius, which I'll pop below, does look a lot better. This is either an isolated incident, or something to do with the line in the evening. I'm around until 8pm today, so please monitor your connection throughout the day, especially this evening, and let me know how it starts to perform.

Looks like the connection has improved throughout the night so I'm wanting to see whether it starts dropping again throughout the day / evening.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 05:48:48 GMT

Hi @adam945

The loss of internet whilst wifi reported to be available occurred many times tonight and was very frustrating for me trying to watch streaming tv and for daughter trying to get her homework done. My wife has important zoom meetings and we are terrified that this issue is going to interfere with those.

The wifi remained on but with no access to internet, each time the router had to be reset.
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I videoed the lights of the router https://youtu.be/BrArLkz_Xo8

I need this to be resolved as soon as possible and having read the thread about a firmware update I ask that ts be urgently applied. I did request on sunday, but my request has not been acknowledged.

I read in the plusnet manual that the orange b light means that i am connected to the broadband but my account might not be switched on yet.

Thanks

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

MisterW — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 07:36:07 GMT

@Matt72 that light sequence indicates a router reboot.

Does,the event log contain any messages like '17.710000) Boot reason: watchdog reset (cause: 0x3)' ?

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 07:42:52 GMT

i checked the log and nothing like that thanks MisterW

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

adam945 — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:25:25 GMT

Thanks a lot for getting back to us Matt72.

I can't help but notice that the bulk of your disconnections are happening in the evening every day. Are you aware of anything being done in and around the property at this time? Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise could be a factor here. For instance, if anything is occurring which generates electronic noise, it can affect your connection. There's no way to diagnose this without raising an initial fault with Openreach, but if you're able to diagnose this on your end, you may be able to resolve it sooner.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:54:15 GMT

Thanks,

It should be noted thst this never happened, ever prior to subscribing to plusnet.

The obvious observation is that all of the family are present when this happens my wife is home using a laptop, desktop, mobile and tablet, during daytime. 1700 to 0800 weekday and all weekend, I and daughter are at home and we use devices.

We turned off each others mobile last night in succession with no effect.

I cannot identify any electrical product that I assume would affect the wifi, we have no microwave, BUT WE DO HAVE A VERY OLD PANASONIC WIRELESS PHONE SYSTEM, so old I have replaced the batteries twice.

****This is interesting, the increased disconnections do correlate with the relocation of router to nearer to the telephone charge base***

I will immediately ask my wife to disconnect its power to see if there is any effect.

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

MisterW — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:29:12 GMT

Correct me if I'm wrong , but from the video , the router light looks to be going to green and then green flashing before then going to orange flashing before going back to blue . @Matt72 Is that correct ?

Going to green indicates a ROUTER reset rather than just a loss of synch. Is the router plugged into an extension block by any chance ?

Re: Constant Wif Drop Outs and Wifi connection with no internet.

Matt72 — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 12:22:34 GMT

Yes you are correct about the lights and maybe I had not advised the video was post reset (top left button).

It is not connected to an extension, but a splitter and as suggested I removed the face plate and connected wire to the socket behind.

Thanks MisterW