topic Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams in Full Fibre

Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:22:48 GMT

Had a recent issue with slow speeds and a battery fault on the line (twice) that has seen a BT engineer in to check the line, replace the master socket and test and also test to the pole and to the cabinet and all seemed fine.

Download speeds do fluctuate but a wired connection to the router and a BT Speedtest gives 65 Mbps download and around 15 Mbps download. Wireless can be a lot lower but still above 20 dl and 10 ul.

Nearly all connected devices work with no issue, i Player etc, Netflix, Amazon and general browsing is not the issue.

However, as soon as we try (working from home) to create a Zoom or Microsoft Teams chat the connection is always slow and frewezes almost instantly. Have tried turning off all connected devices except the one needed, have connected to the router (TP Link Archer C7) via Ethernet and the same result every time. Joining a chat also causes the same issues.

Are there any things I can do to remedy the situation? Router firmware updated and new laptops are in use.

Thanks

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Baldrick1 — Sun, 24 Oct 2021 17:30:20 GMT

Have you tried reducing the camera resolution so there’s less data that you are trying to upload?

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Sun, 24 Oct 2021 18:22:19 GMT

Yes, have tried that and disabled HD in camera setting, no difference.

All video chat platforms seem to be the same, zoom, teams, whats app or messenger - just freeze more or less instantly on all devices, pc, laptop or mobile.

I realise it is an upload and realtime medium but surely this should not be the case on fibre broadband.

Have checked all the router settings i can think of and nothing else seem obvious.

I can't resort to the original modem.router etc as i no longer have one so just this new TP link C7.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Dan_the_Van — Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:08:24 GMT

From what I can make out the TP-Link C7 is just a router, it would need a modem. So what is it connected to?

Is it setup in Wireless Access Mode?

Dan.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:49:04 GMT

BT Openreach modem.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Edinburgh_wg — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 00:10:34 GMT

There are three things to consider here and to check:

- firewall rules blocking/limiting such software - check your firewall settings (flood defence settings associated with UDP) or parental settings

- hardware acceleration being switched off - switch it on

- load balancing is on, resulting in a reduced bandwidth for your Zoom/Teams software - check load balancing settings

Unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with eithe BT Openreach modem or TP-Link Archer, but the above would be most common reasons why you'd have problems with Zoom and Teams type of software

Also worth checking Plusnet's own firewall settings as well as that of your computer - to eliminate it's your computer only, download Teams on your mobile phone and perform a test. This way you'll be able to tell if it's your computer that causes the problem or your network settings.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Dan_the_Van — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 06:25:32 GMT

My first concern was double NAT but this is not the case with your setup.

I would do some research in to upload buffer bloat which might be the problem you are suffering.

Hopefully your router will have a QOS Setting in the advanced section where it might be possible to setup the upload bandwidth.

Hope this helps

Dan.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:24:24 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I will take a look at your suggestions later, it has definitely got to be router related somewhere as all devices no matter what are used are affected.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:28:29 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I had already looked at the QoS setting and download and upload were set to 1000mbps, it would seem this is therefore not the cause.

A bit baffling to say the least, but something somewhere is causing the issue on any device used for video conferencing with almost instant freezing.

Got to be router a router related setting somewhere I imagine on the Archer C7. The only other option is to dig out the old router Asus N66U and try that again if I cannot find the Archer solution.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

MisterW — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:24:20 GMT

I had already looked at the QoS setting and download and upload were set to 1000mbps, it would seem this is therefore not the cause.

If QoS is enabled then those values need to be be changed to the actual download and upload bandwidth NOT 1000mbps.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 20:17:14 GMT

Changed them to a more realistic value and deactivated the built in firewall. Alas, still not sorted, used 4g to have what's app video call, no issue. Tried ethernet and wireless and freezing back.

Unsure what else could be causing it but something seems to be causing the freezing.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Edinburgh_wg — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 20:49:22 GMT

Post the version of your Archer C7, as there are 5 of them and each differs in terms of options. Otherwise it'll be difficult to know and everyone on here is second guessing. You'll find the hardware version on the label on the router.

Do you have the Archer set up as 'Access Point'?

Have you got the latest firmware?

It'd also be helpful if you posted some screenshots from your router's firewall settings. (I'm using Archer emulator for hardware V3):

- post screenshots of your settings under 'Security', more specifically 'Basic security' and 'Advanced security'.(You could experiment with ALG settings)

- post screenshots from under the 'Bandwidth control' tab

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:30:03 GMT

Thanks for replying. I am not that techy so bear with me on this>

It's actually AC1750 WirelessDual Band Gigabyte Router Archer A7 (EU) Version 5.0

I don't have it set up as an access point, just the router option currently.

It is up to date firmware wise.

Here are the screenshots, not sure if they are the correct ones. The 2.4 and 5 ghz channels are in auto but channel 2 is 2.4 and 36 is 5ghz. I have read that 1 and 10 are better for 2.4 but unsure of changing that will make a difference.

Appreciate the help very much.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Edinburgh_wg — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:40:03 GMT

Try the following. One at a time. If unsuccessful, switch the setting back on to how it was before you changed it:

- if you're connecting the Archer directly to your BT Hub, then change the setting to 'Access Point', then test

- switch QoS off (untick the box), then test (this function won't matter if Archer is in the Access Point mode anyway)

- switch Access Control off (disable), then test

- finally, switch DoS protection off and then test

Your problem has nothing to do with the WiFi

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Baldrick1 — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 08:40:48 GMT

@Edinburgh_wg

The OP has an Openreach modem NOT a BT hub.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:53:42 GMT

Thanks for the reply.

I am assuming your comment, which is correct, that I have a BT Openreach modem, means that switching it to access point mode is not going to be the right thing to do.

What about the other suggestions?

Something is causing the issue as a video conference on 4G is fine, as soon as I use the internet be it wired or wireless the freezing happens instantly. I can't seem to find what.

though.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

dartilov — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:57:43 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to reply again.

I don't have a BT Hub bit I have an ECI BT Openreach Modem so I don't think I can switch it to an access point can I?

Therefore the QoS will need to remain, I take it.

I will try the DoS, if not the other two.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

MisterW — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:15:56 GMT

Therefore the QoS will need to remain, I take it.

@dartilov no, it doesnt, not all routers support it and enabling it can cause throughput degradation on many routers. I would suggest that the first thing, as @Edinburgh_wg suggested, is to disable QoS and see if the situation improves.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Baldrick1 — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:29:26 GMT

@dartilov wrote:

I don't have a BT Hub bit I have an ECI BT Openreach Modem so I don't think I can switch it to an access point can I?

No you can't.

Re: Zoom and Microsoft Teams

Edinburgh_wg — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 16:37:09 GMT

You're switching the Archer to the Access Point mode, not your Openreach or BT modem!

QoS still stands to try out.

I don't understand your point with 4G. You didn't tell us what you're connecting to 4G? Your phone? If so, what is it meant to prove? That Whatsapp is working?

If your router/modem is being connected to 4G, then how are you connecting it? Are you using a dongle?