topic Re: No fibre available but neighbours can??? in Full Fibre

No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:07:34 GMT

Hi all.

We moved into our new home nearly two years ago. At our previous house we had Plusnet fibre. When we moved fibre wasn't available in the new home. It is a new build in a small country village.

We had to switch to ADSL broadband, with the view to upgrade to fibre when it became available. Nearly two years later there seems to be an issue with the line we are connected to?

Our neighbours can get fibre broadband, houses that were completed before and after us. I have checked with the ADSL checker from BT Wholesale, it just says we are on Telephone Number *********** on Exchange CLARBESTON. No cabinet info at all.

We want to take out fibre when we are due to renew but am frustrated by the lack of info and what people (companies) are doing.

Has anyone had any simular issues and if so, were they resolved. Also, would Plusnet be able to look into this for us?

Yours hopefully.

timfibre

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

bmc — Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:27:06 GMT

@timfibre

Try the Address version of the DSL Checker

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome#

Enter only your Post Code and you should get a list of addresses back so you can not only check your own but neighbouring properties.

Brian

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

Luzern — Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:46:13 GMT

@timfibre Try this. It lists all postcodes and cabinets. I suspect your line is an exchange one, and there are a few codes which are mixed.

There's no telling how lines are routed.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

Gandalf — Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:07:47 GMT

Thanks for getting in touch @timfibre

I'm sorry to see you're unable to get fibre at your current address. Unfortunately your line is connected directly into the exchange which is the reason there's no cabinet number showing on the BT checker.

I'm querying this with Openreach to find out if there are any plans to move your line to a fibre enabled cabinet and I should receive an email response within the next 3 working days, I'll update you when I know more.

If you'd like to do the same I'd recommend filling out this formwize: https://www.formwize.openreach.co.uk/run/survey3.cfm?idx=505d040e0b080d which will open a dialogue with Openreach via email when they get back to you.

I hope this helps.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:31:12 GMT

I have looking in to the other properties in my close, they are on a cabinet and my line is saying exchange?

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

Gandalf — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:36:03 GMT

Hi @timfibre

I've received the following response from Openreach this morning, it doesn't look like it's good news I'm afraid

Having investigated our network data, I have found that we are not able to supply your customer with Fibre service from our existing network. There are no projects to move this customer to a fibre enabled cabinet either.

Regrettably, your customer’s property is not included in the current fibre rollout. One option for your customer to consider is getting together with their neighbours or local community group and raising the money to help build the network. We offer a community fibre partnership scheme where we work with local communities to find a fibre solution. We cannot always guarantee this will be feasible but we would be willing to look at it if your customer is interested. Further information can be found at https://communityfibre.openreach.co.uk

I am sorry that I am unable to give a more positive response at this time.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:39:21 GMT

Thanks.

I have filled out the form and sent to Openreach. Hope to egt an few more details in the coming days.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

bmc — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:42:16 GMT

@timfibre

If the properties on either side of you show they are connected to the Exchange then it may simply be an OpenReach records problem with your property having the wrong details.

Brian

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:45:40 GMT

Not good newst at all

I would expect new build properties to be connected to a fibre cabinet. Some were built before this one, and some after and they have fibre!

We don't have mobile signal and uplaod speed is so bad a Vodafone sure sigal won't even work. Modern tech!!

Thank you for trying.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

Gandalf — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:54:40 GMT

Thanks for getting back to us @timfibre

No problem, I've emailed Openreach back to advise that your neighbours can get fibre requesting that they check for any potential records issue. Will let you know when/if I receive a response back.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

Gandalf — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:07:30 GMT

Hi @timfibre

Yesterday I received a response back from our suppliers advising that the DP(Distribution Point) your line and your immediate neighbours(6, 7, 8 ) are connected to is fed directly from the exchange and not through a cabinet I'm afraid.

Moderators Note: Post corrected at staff request.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

RichardB — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:31:54 GMT

Hi @timfibre

As Openreach's infrastructure cannot support FTTC or FTTP for your property, perhaps you could investigate mobile 4G data as an option improve on ADSL.

Three, EE and Vodafone all now do unlimited data plans.

Check the respective networks coverage on their websites and buy a PAYG SIM card to test the coverage and speeds before committing to a contract.

Regards

Richard

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

bmc — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:53:37 GMT

@timfibre

I would Register an interest in Fibre with OpenReach (and get your neighbours to do the same).

https://www.openreach.com/

While it's unlikely to prod them into action for a few addresses you never know!!!

Brian

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:56:18 GMT

Hi @RichardB

Unfortunately this isn’t something we can do as there is no mobile signal at the house either.😢

Thanks for your reply 👍

timfiber.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

timfibre — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:58:58 GMT

Thanks @bmc

I am currently looking in to this, Openreach have the community fibre partnership. But it looks like it might be expensive.

Thanks.

timfiber.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

dws1900 — Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:59:00 GMT

@timfibre

Our street looked at fttp, 20K was the estimate.

Are you really sure there is no 4G?

Are you in a rural area where there are alternative microwave based services (ask your local farmers)

You could go for satellite, it does work , I used it in the past.

Wait for Boris to fix it

A lot of people are in the same situation due to the may the telecoms services are structured.

Me, 5G bring it on, bye bye phone line etc.

Re: No fibre available but neighbours can???

bmc — Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:20:27 GMT

@timfibre

In post #3 Luzern gave you a link to a website which shows more detail about your line and Exchange. You should have a look at this to see if your line is specifically mentioned as one of the "Exchange" areas. Note however, the site isn't always up to date. This might give you more detail when looking to stir movement.

It appears there is general action on Superfast broadband in Wales but you have to go digging for details. ISPReview mentioned Pembrokeshire twice this year

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/08/pembrokeshire-unveils-plan-to-improve-full-fibre-broadband-coverage.html

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/02/breakdown-of-the-phase-2-wales-superfast-broadband-coverage-plan.html

You might find a local campaigning group or even a local project.

Brian