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    <title>topic Re: Pre-order install questions in Full Fibre</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042938#M30378</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149043"&gt;@unca_mike&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Happy to help. Always interested in how the install goes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:08:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-04-10T16:08:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042880#M30367</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My contract with another provider is due to end and I'm potentially looking to join plusnet full fibre - but have a couple of questions that I hope you lovely people could advise. I hope I've got the correct forum, but if not, apologies (and please point me to the relevant forum if possible).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Existing setup is Virgin Media full fibre so I know that all goes in the bin. However the "old" unused phone line to the property was damaged/severed in the storms last year so there is not actual phone line into the property just now.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Q1) Can anyone advise on how this works for installation?&lt;BR /&gt;Q2) Although a new line/reconnect is required, where it physically enters the property is....poor... for my network. How easy is it for it to be moved and would Plusnet do that?&lt;BR /&gt;Q3) Internally every thing goes to out via my Unifi UDR7. Just now the virgin media hub is in "dumb modem mode" - is there an equivalent of this for the Plusnet modems so I avoid double-NATing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;Mike&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 11:20:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042880#M30367</guid>
      <dc:creator>unca_mike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T11:20:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042881#M30368</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149043"&gt;@unca_mike&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;welcome to the forums&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Q1) Can anyone advise on how this works for installation?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Full fibre doesnt use the existing phone line&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Q2) Although a new line/reconnect is required, where it physically enters the property is....poor... for my network. How easy is it for it to be moved and would Plusnet do that?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is some leeway how the new fibre is routed ( see questions below )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Q3) Internally every thing goes to out via my Unifi UDR7. Just now the virgin media hub is in "dumb modem mode" - is there an equivalent of this for the Plusnet modems so I avoid double-NATing?Q1) Can anyone advise on how this works for installation?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your UDR7 can connect directly to the ONT&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;what does the BT wholesale checker&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome" rel="noopener nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome&lt;/A&gt; say for your address ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;what is in the 'Install process' alongside the WBC FTTP availability ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and what does the narrative below the availability matrix say ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 11:28:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042881#M30368</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T11:28:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042894#M30369</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the info - looking at the BT wholesale checker page:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- what is in the 'Install process' alongside the WBC FTTP availability ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It says: "1 stage"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-&amp;nbsp;and what does the narrative below the availability matrix say ?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It says:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-Single Dwelling Unit Residential OH Feed with no anticipated issues.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="ng-star-inserted"&gt;The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="ng-star-inserted"&gt;As a WLR withdrawal exchange, product restrictions apply&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="ng-star-inserted"&gt;SOADSL is not restricted at the exchange&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For all ADSL and WBC Fibre to the Cabinet (VDSL or G.fast) services, the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For all SOADSL services,the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Actual speeds experienced by end users and quoted by CPs will be lower due to a number of factors within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer premises.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In order to be eligible for handback, downstream speed should be less than Downstream Handback Threshold values.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you decide to place an order for a WBC fibre product, an appointment may be required for an engineer to visit the end user's premises to supply the service&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ADSL, ADSL2+ and SOADSL availability:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;If shown at FTTP or SOGEA premises,&lt;U&gt;ADSL, ADSL2+ and SOADSL are not available to order&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;due to WLR Withdrawal stop sell rules. CPs should order FTTP or SOGEA. Copper products are only available by exception."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So - if I'm understanding correctly, I just need to place an order, and get an engineer date? And if a new line is being fitted then hopefully the location should be negotiable. That's fantastic - thank you!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Cheers,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class="MessageMargin ng-star-inserted"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Mike&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:20:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042894#M30369</guid>
      <dc:creator>unca_mike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T12:20:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042897#M30370</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149043"&gt;@unca_mike&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The following shows what haapens with a FF install. The bit about two power sockets being required is not strictly accurate as the router is connected by ethernet cable so can go anywhere you're willing to run said cable.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/full-fibre-broadband-installation-checklist" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/full-fibre-broadband-installation-checklist&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Assuming no poles were damaged then the install looks straight forward. A new fibre cable is run from the pole to your property. As already stated there is some leeway as to where both the external CSP box and the ONT go - you speak to the engineer on the day.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:30:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042897#M30370</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T12:30:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042901#M30371</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149043"&gt;@unca_mike&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/44575"&gt;@bmc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;says , the install looks straighforward.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Going back to the UDR7. You will need to configure its WAN connection for PPPoE with your Plusnet username &amp;amp; password. Then connect its WAN port to the ONT that Openreach will install. Job done.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:48:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042901#M30371</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T12:48:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042903#M30372</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would get the Plusnet router (for the postage charge) just in case the&amp;nbsp;Unifi UDR7 setup doesn't go well first time. It should be fine, but just in case...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyond that careful thought about where you would like the fibre entry and Openreach ONT as that will be there for a long time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Personally I have mine in a cupboard near the meters (as that was possible) but it all depends on the constraints and preferences in your home.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The phone wiring doesn't matter but the install visit may provide an opportunity for a tidy up/removal of Openreach's side of the system (up to the master socket).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:56:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042903#M30372</guid>
      <dc:creator>markhawkin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T12:56:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042935#M30377</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks all for answering the questions. I've submitted my order form now and look forward to the switch.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Appreciated!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Mike&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:27:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042935#M30377</guid>
      <dc:creator>unca_mike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T15:27:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pre-order install questions</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042938#M30378</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149043"&gt;@unca_mike&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Happy to help. Always interested in how the install goes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:08:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Pre-order-install-questions/m-p/2042938#M30378</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-10T16:08:44Z</dc:date>
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