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    <title>topic Re: Misleading full fibre promise in Full Fibre</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038521#M29930</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/101748"&gt;@ModelCitizen2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Privatisation of UK telecoms service.&lt;BR /&gt;That will have been a failure of government not BT (as was). We always had a reliable telephone and never had to think about telecoms. It was just there. Now the government have been promising us rural peasants full fibre for nearly two decades but have seemed incapable of delivering it fast and efficiently through the privatised companies driven by profit.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'd just like to take the opportunity to agree with some of your comments on this matter. The idea That the GPO never did anything to help Britain is simple ignorance ("&lt;EM&gt;Don't mention the war!&lt;/EM&gt;").&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;One example known to me: We could have had full fibre DECADES ago (BT was getting ready to convert in the 1980s) but certain politicians thought it far more important we have a blue button on our phones (Remember Mercury? - my original, old and redundant, Geemarc telephone receiver still has its blue Mercury button)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Bye the bye - know where the concept of the passive local optical communications network came from, in 1987?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 11:18:36 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pvmb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-24T11:18:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038301#M29902</link>
      <description>Plusnet Full Fibre Promise says you can upgrade to full fibre as soon as it is available in your area. It is now available in my area but not with Plusnet. I did not know there are different companies putting in the full fibre cables and the broadband providers don’t work with all of them. So, Plusnet are charging me to get out of a new contract (a few weeks past cooling off period ended) which I would not have signed if I knew they weren’t gonna get me on the cables I could see being put in. Have spoken to a manager who has listened to the phone call where I mentioned fibre cables going in and that I would want to change as soon as possible but was not told these were not Plusnet cables.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I really think I should have been made aware that Plusnet will only let you upgrade to full fibre for free when it is available through them and they cannot supply through all fibre cables. Not what is stated in the Full Fibre Promise at all!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 14:23:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038301#M29902</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T14:23:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038304#M29903</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Silly question, but when you agreed the new contract with PN, did you check that Openreach (whose network PN use) were installing Full Fibre in your area?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 14:42:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038304#M29903</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T14:42:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038307#M29904</link>
      <description>I did not know that there were different fibre broadband networks being installed. There has only ever been one phone line, electricity line and water supply to my house so I assumed this would be the same. Really think I should have been made aware of this when I was on the phone renewing my contract.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 14:55:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038307#M29904</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T14:55:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038308#M29905</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you ask, though? The PN agents are not mind readers.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 14:57:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038308#M29905</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T14:57:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038310#M29906</link>
      <description>Do you work for Plusnet?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 14:59:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038310#M29906</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T14:59:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038312#M29907</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;NO I don't.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:00:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038312#M29907</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T15:00:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038315#M29908</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator's note:&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;Duplicate post removed&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:08:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038315#M29908</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T15:08:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038320#M29909</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Plusnet are in the same ISP group as BT/EE/Openreach&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Use the link below to see if there is an openreach fibre availability estimate for your street.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:24:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038320#M29909</guid>
      <dc:creator>PhilipHeyes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T15:24:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038321#M29910</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/148595"&gt;@olih1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your best bet is to make a formal complaint. See:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.plus.net/help/legal/complaints-code-of-practice/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.plus.net/help/legal/complaints-code-of-practice/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:32:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038321#M29910</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T15:32:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038325#M29911</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So, who is installing fibres?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:55:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038325#M29911</guid>
      <dc:creator>markhawkin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T16:55:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038327#M29912</link>
      <description>City Fibre. I guess a quick google would have shown me that Plusnet do not work with them but I had no idea that was even a possibility. Moving to another company so I can get on that network asap and bypass the ancient copper wire running through my garden. Just would be nice not to have started a new contract with Plusnet…</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 17:01:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038327#M29912</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T17:01:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038329#M29913</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/38823"&gt;@Baldrick1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; I don't see any grounds for a complaint, the full fibre promise depends on an Openreach FTTP service&amp;nbsp; being available. Unfortunately the OP's error was to assume other fibre networks could be used by Plusnet.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 18:01:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038329#M29913</guid>
      <dc:creator>RealAleMadrid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T18:01:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038332#M29914</link>
      <description>Well, so it  seems…. Should really be an asterix that says that on the advert shouldn’t there? Reading the advert as is, I was misled!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 18:46:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038332#M29914</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T18:46:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038338#M29915</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This wording is on PlusNets web site, it says nothing about WHO can supply Full Fibre, nor does it define or limit it:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;H3 class="margin-top-0 margin-bottom-16 heading-2"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Plusnet’s Full Fibre promise&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/H3&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Full Fibre is rolling out across the UK. If you can’t get it just yet, don’t worry.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sign up to our Fibre package, and you’ll be able to upgrade as soon as Full Fibre hits your street. Now that’s a plus.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I think you have a good basis for a complaint.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thumbs_up:"&gt;👍&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;A footnote also says:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Full Fibre is also broadband only, so doesn’t need or provide a phone line service. This package uses the latest fibre technology which runs direct to your home.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Full Fibre is so new it’s not available everywhere just yet. The good news is, when you sign up to a Fibre package you can easily upgrade to Full Fibre when it becomes available in your area.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 19:06:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038338#M29915</guid>
      <dc:creator>HPsauce</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T19:06:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038343#M29916</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The above post is very important.&amp;nbsp; Read it carefully. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The switch from Plusnet ADSL or FTTC to FTTP is not a like for like upgrade to faster internet.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Depending on the state of your service, you will loose the land line telephone, you may also loose your email accounts.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 19:25:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038343#M29916</guid>
      <dc:creator>PhilipHeyes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T19:25:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038345#M29917</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/107337"&gt;@PhilipHeyes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;If you upgrade your service to FTTP - WITH Plusnet, you do not lose your email service.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 19:30:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-21T19:30:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038423#M29918</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It’s never occurred to me before but I DO think that PlusNet’s advert IS unintentionally misleading. It doesn’t define which fibre supplier PN is willing to work with. In the past no one ever asked whether you had a BT telephone line or some other and it is something new to ask whether it’s BT’s (Openreach’s) fibre being supplied in your area before signing up to a contract. IMHO since they don’t define what they refer to as fibre, and it’s reasonable to assume that they therefore mean ANY fibre, they should carry any of the OP’s costs as he’s been misled. Worth escalating IMHO.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just as a matter of interest, are there any instances (Virgin aside) of several fibre providers serving the same area?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:56:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>quelquod</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-23T09:56:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038430#M29919</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Just as a matter of interest, are there any instances (Virgin aside) of several fibre providers serving the same area?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yes - I have at least one more.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 10:06:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-23T10:06:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038500#M29920</link>
      <description>The OP was not aware there was more than one fibre infrastructure provider. Plusnet have a duty to check that it is BTOpenreach that are supplying the fibre before taking the order. This is what the Plusnet operative did when I made an order to upgrade to fibre yesterday. It seems the operative she dealt with forgot to do this.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If Plusnet were a decent company they'd admit their mistake and refund the customer.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Things were so much simpler before privatisation when we had a single state-owned telecommunications company run for the benefit of the country.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 08:51:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038500#M29920</guid>
      <dc:creator>ModelCitizen2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-24T08:51:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Misleading full fibre promise</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038502#M29921</link>
      <description>Had a call from Plusnet yesterday saying they are going to let me off the exit fee after I complained for a second time. He couldn’t confirm whether or not they will be reviewing the wording or adding an asterisk to their full fibre promise.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 09:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Full-Fibre/Misleading-full-fibre-promise/m-p/2038502#M29921</guid>
      <dc:creator>olih1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-24T09:14:56Z</dc:date>
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