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Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:25:31 GMT

Pre-Fibre

Post-Fibre

Question I have for those who have had it done, did most of you had to get some drilling and more fibre to a socket in your home first, or can they just allow it with 5m of copper? (I know there would be drop off, but with 5m it should be low yes?).

Let me know your happy stories or horror stories lol

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:34:26 GMT

@TheRealDabhand When you move to a FTTP service, a new cable is run to your property, which terminates on an Optical Network Termination , which they will instal in place of your Master Socket - no copper is involved.

Under normal circumstances, this takes around 1.1/2 hours, and then you are good to go.

Any further questions, feel free to ask.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:39:31 GMT

Thanks Jab1 for the reply, yeah I expected as such, but with the termination literally right outside my door (live in a block of flats of 3) I had hoped the small 5m of copper would be doable to get near the minimum speed at least.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:45:19 GMT

So, your Master socket is outside your flat? I don't believe so - they are inside the served property, as they are 'personal' to that property.

A little more detail is required before we say more.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:55:44 GMT

No, Master Socket is inside, but there is a communal cupboard with a termination in it, then it has copper to the flats to master sockets.

Sorry I should have been a bit more clear. My bad.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:51:24 GMT

OK, no problem. As you say 'FTTP is here', does that mean that BT (or some other company) have wired the block up?

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:55:22 GMT

Yeah they did after 1yr after sending out letters to tenants of the flats, there is 15 in 3 blocks, I was the only one who signed the agreement. So it was a slow process to get everyone to sign one, thankfully 7 weeks ago they finished our block of 3, and were doing the other 2 blocks. Thankfully they just finished the other day, so I quickly ordered Happy that PN is allowing it, was worried I would have to pay ETF to go to BT, so was very happy to see the options listed

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 19:59:46 GMT

OK. If they have wired yup, they must have done a survey and determined how they plan to do the final installations.

As PN are just a BT 'brand' these days, there would be no reason for you to have to move.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

bmc — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:25:56 GMT

@TheRealDabhand

I would be interested in what the narrative (below the results window) from the following says about FTTP.

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

Normally forum users can offer a bit of advice about installs but we don't often see "communal" installs. I'm guessing fibre will be run to the communal cabinet and then pulled through to your flat. What will happen is the installer will speak to you on the day to explain things.

Brian

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:37:29 GMT

@bmc I'm guessing the fibre install will follow the copper run, as that is the most logical route.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:45:15 GMT

@bmc This what you wanted?

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:50:10 GMT

@TheRealDabhand Reading that, your properties are fed from overhead cables, and the final installation is 'complex', because you are in a multiple dwelling unit (block of flats). L2C will be the instructions the installers have to follow.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

bmc — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:50:37 GMT

@TheRealDabhand

Thanks for that.

As I thought it's not a straight forward install according to the information at the end of the first line. Others might be able to explain the message.

Brian

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:58:16 GMT

I'll see if I can find an explanation of 'L2C' - tomorrow morning, but if anyone wants to use a search engine before then, feel free.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:08:57 GMT

L2C apparently means Leads to Cash - guess it is an invoiceable install.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

RealAleMadrid — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:20:21 GMT

@jab1 @Unfortunately L2C tells you nothing about the actual details. It is some odd OR internal abbreviation for Line to Cash and pops up on the checker for any non standard FTTP installation. I have seen it in some OR documents and can only assume it has has been dreamt up by bean counters.

The interesting thing is that the notes state it is a single unit dwelling, not multiple so something strange there.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:21:25 GMT

Reading the first reference I found under a search using 'L2C Openreach', I think you may be mistaken in thinking it is an invoiceable process, but I could be wrong.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

jab1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:25:20 GMT

@RealAleMadrid wrote:

@jab1 @Unfortunately L2C tells you nothing about the actual details. It is some odd OR internal abbreviation for Line to Cash and pops up on the checker for any non standard FTTP installation. I have seen it in some OR documents and can only assume it has has been dreamt up by bean counters.

The interesting thing is that the notes state it is a single unit dwelling, not multiple so something strange there.

Openreach terminology is in a world of its own, @RealAleMadrid , but if it was liable to cost the EU, presumably PN would be advised, and pass that information on to the customer?

As regards the SUD comment - see above. 😉

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

Mustrum — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:57:06 GMT

L2C is simply Openreach terminology for Lead to Cash. Meaning it is not a simple installation, and would need an experienced installer to try and find a simple solution.

So for @TheRealDabhand get your best China out, stock up with choky digestives, fig rolls or even millionaires shortbread and be be prepared to do all you can to make sure the Openreach rep has the simplest job they can. Have a real good look at how the current line comes to your property, work out if fibre could be done in a more simple way, consider installing trunking with a draw cord, getting any techy mates round to have a look to help with ideas, basically the more you can do to help will pay off.

Otherwise like the bank, the cop who pulls you over, the computer will say no or you fail the attidute test - hopefully upi know what I mean.

Re: Finally FTTP has arrived for me

TheRealDabhand — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:10:39 GMT

@Mustrum Had a friend who is ex-BT engineer, had a nosey and told me the best and easiest way is for them to drill through go over a couple of doors along the frames and to the next available outlet. Otherwise to get to the master socket it would require a lot of work and getting into the wall itself, which of course is a no no. So guess that will be the quickest way to do it, come in bottom of wall, staple gun cable around skirtings and 2 door frames to the first electrical outlet and put the fibre socket there so the router can be plugged into the wall.