topic Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ? in Full Fibre

Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:29:54 GMT

Hi all,

I am thinking of moving from SKY broadband only to Plusnet (FTTP)

Can I check with you guys that you get the Hub 2 with this package ?

I would like a sim only for my mobile phone can I get this as well?

with SKY:

I pay £8 for 5GB of date unlimited txt and calls

Thanks for the help

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

jab1 — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:35:30 GMT

@Flourgrader Yes, you do get the Hub2 - that is the default offering from PN for any new connection.

For the mobile question - PN do not offer SIMs - that is now via EE, but you can get much better deals elsewhere - try a few comparison sites.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:40:00 GMT

Thanks for the very quick reply jab1. much appreciated.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

MisterW — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:57:49 GMT

@Flourgrader note that on FTTP , the Hub 2 only has 3 LAN ports available as the 4th port is used for the WAN connection to the ONT

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

bmc — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:06:35 GMT

@Flourgrader

Not certain if this applies to new customers but if asked ensure you say yes to the Hub2 - you may pay a P&P charge.

PN are happy for you to use your own equipment if you prefer that.

PN are closing their mobile service. I transferred to GiffGaff but there are many providers.

Brian

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:31:18 GMT

Thank you for the info bmc,

I am using a

TP link archer 2800.

I replaced skys router because it was rubbish.

Will my TP link archer 2800 router connect with PN.

and is the TP link archer 2800 worse or better than the Hub 2

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:33:47 GMT

Thanks MisterW for the info, yes i did know.I was a bit miffed by the fact that it only had 3 LANS as I have a lot of stuff attached to my current router TP link archer 2800.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

MisterW — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:39:50 GMT

@Flourgrader Will my TP link archer 2800 router connect with PN.

If its this one https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/dsl-modem-router/archer-vr2800/ then , yes.

Like the Hub 2 , one of the LAN ports can be re-purposed as a WAN port, see here https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/faq/1731/

You would then just need to configure the WAN connection as PPPoE with your PLusnet username & password

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:07:40 GMT

Thank you MisterW i found that info very helpful.
YES: The link you showed me is my Router
I currently have my router setting ISP: Sky(MER)_VDSL
I have an option in my list of ISP to use: Plusnet_VDSL
I take it I would swap it to this option?
Then change my SKY settings:
User name = xxxxxxxxxxxx@skydsl
Password = xxxxx234
to
whatever user name and password i had for PN ? like what you said ?

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

MisterW — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:15:40 GMT

I currently have my router setting ISP: Sky(MER)_VDSL
I have an option in my list of ISP to use: Plusnet_VDSL
I take it I would swap it to this option?

@Flourgrader I'm not sure those options will be available once its set to Wireless Router Mode.

Doesn't matter though, just set the Internet Type to PPPoE and use the Plusnet username/password. There's no need for any VLAN ID setting on FTTP like there is for VDSL

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

bmc — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:23:50 GMT

@Flourgrader

I would still take the PN router - if nothing else it's a back up.

If you're happy with your current WiFi coverage the Hub2 could just be left in the box. If not, then try it to see if it's better. Just remember you'd need to change the WIFi setting to what you currently use.

Brian

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:31:11 GMT

Yes, I agree bmc.

I don't know anything about the Hub 2 so I carn't compare yet to which might be the best router.

I have a load of stuff on ethernet (CAT7) and tied MAC & IP addresses. so to retain my current router would save me a shed load of work. CPU in the Archer VR2800 router is a bit [-Censored-]. its slow on big file transferes across the internal network.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:37:19 GMT

I see, Thanks again for the info, it was most appreciated.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

MisterW — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:39:46 GMT

CPU in the Archer VR2800 router is a bit [-Censored-]. its slow on big file transferes across the internal network.

Now that's a point to consider. What speed FTTP are you going for ?

From what I can see the VR2800 has a dual core 1GHz processor, so its probably only able to cope with around 500Mb WAN->LAN throughput unless its got any hardware NAT fucntionality and that assumes you don't enable any QoS settings.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:52:28 GMT

MisterW, you must have been reading my mind.

I have just fired off a email asking helpdesk at TP to give me that information.

500Mbps would be fast enough for me. Probably 300Mbps would do.

Only thing is there is not a big price difference between the 2. So why not have more.

Do you know what CPU is in the Hub 2..

Is it better than the one in the Archer ?

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

bmc — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:06:59 GMT

@Flourgrader

I would go with the minimum you require - even if that's FF145

You can upgrade at any point in your contract at the cost of a new contract. Downgrading costs money!!!

Brian

Edit : Your IP address will change with moving to PN. If required you can get a Static IP address for a one off charge of £5.00

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

MisterW — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:16:19 GMT

Do you know what CPU is in the Hub 2

No, but I'm reliably informed that its designed for and can handle a 1Gb FTTP connection.

I have just fired off a email asking helpdesk at TP to give me that information.

Be interested to hear what response is forthcoming.

For information I currently use a Ubiquiti ER-X running OpenWrt which has a dual core 880Mhz MT7621 processor. With hardware NAT enabled it will handle my 900 Mb FTTP connection fine. Disable h/w NAT and it peaks out at around 450Mb.

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Dan_the_Van — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:04:07 GMT

@Flourgrader wrote:
I have a load of stuff on ethernet (CAT7) and tied MAC & IP addresses. so to retain my current router would save me a shed load of work. CPU in the Archer VR2800 router is a bit [-Censored-]. its slow on big file transfers across the internal network.

You will find the Hub Two DHCP server not as configurable as any TP-Link router, with the VR2800 you are able to add the devices MAC address and assign a IP Address before you connect it. This is not possible with a Hub two, the device has to be connected have an IP Address assign before you change it to what you wish and make 'always use this IP Address'

Alternatively you set the devices on your network which requires one with fixed IP Addresses.

Also you can not use some 10.0.0.0/8 network ranges.

Before you change any setting on the VR2800 take a backup.

In advanced setting change >Operation Mode change to Wireless Router Mode

Then setup the PPPoE connection >Network >Internet >+Add

Plusnet use CHAP so you could also change Authentication Type to CHAP.

Then 'Save'

EDIT: LAN4 will become the WAN port for connection to the ONT

HTH

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:29:31 GMT

Thank you Dan_the_Van,

I found the info useful & appreciated the

time you had taken to include a screen shot

of the Archer Router 👍

Re: Hub 2 with FTTP ?

Flourgrader — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:48:23 GMT

@MisterW:
Be interested to hear what response is forthcoming.
"Hello,
Thank you for contacting TP-Link support.
This device have 3 1000Mbps RJ45 LAN Ports and 1 1000Mbps RJ45 WAN/LAN Port.
For full specification of the device, click on this link: https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/dsl-modem-router/archer-vr2800/#specifications
Thank You."
Seems to me they side steped the question ?