https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049148#M41610 <P>There are more perinate matters to consider than the plain simple matter of boundaries and cost / payment.</P> <P>The account holder is legally responsible for ALL INTERNET USAGE over their service.&nbsp; If this third party were to be granted access to the internet connection and they then make abusive / inappropriate / illegal use of the service, it will be&nbsp;<a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149534">@DAVID3370</a>&nbsp;who would face prosecution.</P> <P>This is more that the consideration of "not being cooperative" it is the right and proper protection of self from the potential liability arising from a third party's (mis)use of a service for which one has contractual obligations...</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><A href="https://www.plus.net/help/legal/acceptable-use-policy/" target="_blank">Acceptable use policy | Help | Plusnet</A></P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.1. While using any of our Services you must comply with all relevant and applicable laws.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><A id="2-2" tabindex="0" name="2-2" data-interaction-module-category="expander" data-interaction-module-title="2. Illegal and inappropriate activities" data-interaction-in-module="TRUE" data-interaction-in-modal="FALSE" data-interaction-state="Enabled" data-interaction-in-form="FALSE" data-interaction-hierarchy="Primary" data-interaction-text="" data-interaction-category="internal" data-interaction-type="link" target="_blank"></A>2.2. You must not use any part of our Services to:</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.1. download, possess or transmit in any way, illegal material (for example indecent images of children);</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.2. send, publish, distribute, circulate or otherwise propagate any material that is threatening, invasive of privacy, discriminatory, defamatory, racist, obscene, indecent, offensive, abusive, harmful or malicious;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.3. gain or attempt to gain unauthorised access to any computer systems for any unauthorised or prohibited purpose;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.4. prevent other users of our Service from accessing the Service;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.5. cause critical disruption to our Services (for example using the Services to launch or receive a deliberate denial of service (DDOS) attack);</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.6. execute, for malicious purposes, any form of network monitoring or data interception that may affect third parties;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.7. intentionally impair or attempt to impair the operation of any computer, prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer or to impair the operation of any such program or the reliability of any such data (for example deleting files or changing the desktop settings);</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.8. knowingly transmit any data, send or upload any material that contains viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time-bombs, keystroke loggers, spyware, adware or any other harmful programs or similar computer code designed to adversely affect the operation of any computer software or hardware;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.2.9. infringe the legal rights of others, including, but not limited to, privacy rights and intellectual property rights; or to commit fraud, or for any other unlawful or fraudulent purpose or effect.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><STRONG>2.3. Any use of any part of our Services as described in paragraph&nbsp;<A class="pn-link" tabindex="0" href="https://www.plus.net/help/legal/acceptable-use-policy/#2-2" data-interaction-module-category="expander" data-interaction-module-title="2. Illegal and inappropriate activities" data-interaction-in-module="TRUE" data-interaction-in-modal="FALSE" data-interaction-state="Enabled" data-interaction-in-form="FALSE" data-interaction-hierarchy="Primary" data-interaction-text="2.2" data-interaction-category="internal" data-interaction-type="link" target="_blank">2.2</A>&nbsp;will be seen as a breach of this policy and we may take any of the actions as set out in paragraph&nbsp;<A class="pn-link" tabindex="0" href="https://www.plus.net/help/legal/acceptable-use-policy/#breach-of-this-policy" data-interaction-module-category="expander" data-interaction-module-title="2. Illegal and inappropriate activities" data-interaction-in-module="TRUE" data-interaction-in-modal="FALSE" data-interaction-state="Enabled" data-interaction-in-form="FALSE" data-interaction-hierarchy="Primary" data-interaction-text="4" data-interaction-category="internal" data-interaction-type="link" target="_blank">4</A>.</STRONG></P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">2.4. You must only use safe and appropriate equipment or software when using our Service and if we discover, or are informed, that any equipment or software which you use to access to our Services has been compromised and is likely to cause harm or damage to our services, network or other customers, we reserve the right to request that you cease use of such equipment or software immediately.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">&nbsp;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.1. If we reasonably believe you, or an individual who you have knowingly or unknowingly allowed to access our Services, breaches or intends to breach this policy, we may at our discretion:</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.1.1. temporarily suspend your access to any of our Services;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.1.2. terminate your account or our agreement to provide our Service;</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><STRONG>4.1.3. commence legal proceedings against you;</STRONG></P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><STRONG>4.1.4. disclose such information to law enforcement authorities as we reasonably feel is necessary; and /or</STRONG></P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.1.5. take any other reasonable action.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.2. We'll normally warn you that you're in breach of this policy and request you comply with its terms before taking any action under section<SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN><A class="pn-link" tabindex="0" href="https://www.plus.net/help/legal/acceptable-use-policy/#4-1" data-interaction-module-category="expander" data-interaction-module-title="4. Breach of this policy" data-interaction-in-module="TRUE" data-interaction-in-modal="FALSE" data-interaction-state="Enabled" data-interaction-in-form="FALSE" data-interaction-hierarchy="Primary" data-interaction-text="4.1" data-interaction-category="internal" data-interaction-type="link" target="_blank">4.1</A>. However, we may not do this if there is a real risk of loss or harm to us, our staff, our network or our other customers.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.3.&nbsp;Reports of breaches of this policy can be sent to&nbsp;<A class="pn-link" tabindex="0" href="mailto:abuse@plus.net" data-interaction-module-category="expander" data-interaction-module-title="4. Breach of this policy" data-interaction-in-module="TRUE" data-interaction-in-modal="FALSE" data-interaction-state="Enabled" data-interaction-in-form="FALSE" data-interaction-hierarchy="Primary" data-interaction-text="abuse@plus.net" data-interaction-category="internal" data-interaction-type="link" target="_blank">abuse@plus.net</A>.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px">4.4. We reserve the right to investigate any suspected violation(s) of our policy.</P> <P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"><STRONG>4.5. We are not responsible for any consequences of <FONT color="#FF0000">your failure to employ appropriate security measures</FONT> to prevent unauthorised access by any third party to the Services.</STRONG></P> <P>This free-loader needs to be given a very wide berth for your own protection.</P> <P>Best advice is to get them to sign up with Plusnet themselves ... and cite you their referrer ... which will give you a bit of discount off YOUR bill!</P> Tue, 16 Jun 2026 11:23:55 GMT Townman 2026-06-16T11:23:55Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048995#M41575 I am getting fed up with a friend who keeps asking if we can add our neighbour to our broadband connection and pay us. Its the landlord and i literally don't want anyone else on our network. I also work for a local council and from home too. It made me angry as its not the first time they have said it. My partner says im being over dramatic. I say its pushing boundaries! What do others think? Am i being over dramatic? This is my safe space as a guy with Autism and its really triggered me! Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:31:16 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048995#M41575 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:31:16Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048997#M41576 <P><a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149534">@DAVID3370</a>&nbsp;I totally agree with your point. If you and your neighbour live in totally separate accommodation, they should have their own internet connection.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:38:50 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048997#M41576 jab1 2026-06-14T17:38:50Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048998#M41577 Thats exactly what i said too. Its someone thinking they are being thoughtful because its the landlord in his 70s....ive said "i don"t really care who it is, its pushing the boundary"...and then before we know it hes handing out the code to the entire block!!! Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:42:41 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048998#M41577 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:42:41Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048999#M41578 <P>I am on the spectrum too, my outlook on life is considerably to the right of Genghis Kahn.<BR /><BR />Faced with the same situation I'd have adopted a deeply French attitude and just said NON NON ! <BR /><BR />A quick change of the Wi-Fi password will instantly disconnect all those that have played on your better nature.<BR /><BR />You pay for the internet &amp; Wi-Fi service ... don't be taken for a ride.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:43:46 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2048999#M41578 PhilipHeyes 2026-06-14T17:43:46Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049000#M41579 Thats exactly what i said too. They can get there ow . Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:45:05 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049000#M41579 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:45:05Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049001#M41580 <P>Are you in a converted house, or a purpose-built block? Irrespective, individual 'houses' should have individual connections.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:46:01 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049001#M41580 jab1 2026-06-14T17:46:01Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049002#M41581 It was "oh but they will pay you" to which i said...yes and if hes a peado then it comes back to my ip address!!! Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:47:28 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049002#M41581 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:47:28Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049003#M41582 <P>see my reply above.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:48:31 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049003#M41582 jab1 2026-06-14T17:48:31Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049004#M41583 4 flats in one block...the landlord above us in his 70s and our idiot friend thinks its a good idea...the answer is no...friend dumped Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:49:26 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049004#M41583 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:49:26Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049005#M41584 <P>So, purpose built flats - individual addresses = individual connections.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:51:23 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049005#M41584 jab1 2026-06-14T17:51:23Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049006#M41585 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/149534">@DAVID3370</a>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />It was "oh but they will pay you" to which i said...yes and if hes a peado then it comes back to my ip address!!!<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yes. Have you asked him why he hasn't made his own arrangements?</P> <P>All sounds very suspicious to me.</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:51:56 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049006#M41585 pvmb 2026-06-14T17:51:56Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049007#M41586 Totallt agree thanks John<BR />David Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:52:20 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049007#M41586 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:52:20Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049009#M41587 Cant be bothered i guess...well too bad...its so easy now to get a connection put in as well. Can u imagine having your landlord who is in the flat above you on your network???? If it was the other way around id still get my own in!! Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:56:35 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049009#M41587 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T17:56:35Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049014#M41588 <P>Presumably your friend doesn't occupy one of the other flats in the building?</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:03:14 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049014#M41588 RobPN 2026-06-14T18:03:14Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049015#M41589 No, they dont.... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:04:25 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049015#M41589 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T18:04:25Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049016#M41590 <P>It is also super easy to change the Wi-Fi password and then that is the all scroungers disconnected.<BR /><BR />Act, or do not grumble !</P> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:04:44 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049016#M41590 PhilipHeyes 2026-06-14T18:04:44Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049018#M41591 But they did crack a joke that they did it to one of their neighbours once who didn't have a secure set up.... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:06:11 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049018#M41591 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T18:06:11Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049020#M41592 Its my partner thats the soft touch... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:07:42 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049020#M41592 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T18:07:42Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049021#M41593 Will be changing on a regular basis now i think... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:09:58 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049021#M41593 DAVID3370 2026-06-14T18:09:58Z https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049026#M41594 <DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 20px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 10pt;"><BR /> <P style="font-size: 10pt;"><STRONG>Moderators Note</STRONG></P> <BR /> <P style="font-size: 10pt;">This topic has been moved from Broadband&nbsp;to Everything Else.</P> </DIV> Sun, 14 Jun 2026 18:31:39 GMT https://community.plus.net/t5/Everything-else/Neighbour/m-p/2049026#M41594 dvorak 2026-06-14T18:31:39Z