topic Re: No FTTP and there never will be in Everything else

No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:38:50 GMT

As my neighbours will not allow cityfibre to go pass and never will. How will my line still work?

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

jab1 — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:46:12 GMT

No doubt BT/OpenReach will enable FTTP at some point. City Fibre are a totally different company.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

MisterW — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:54:23 GMT

@zaaxuk

How will my line still work?

Well for the time being , your copper line can still be used to supply broadband.

As @jab1 says, hopefully Openreach will install FTTP sooner or later. Presumably Openreach already have wayleaves in place to provide the copper connections and wont need the neighbours permission to upgrade them to FTTP

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:57:34 GMT

I hope so

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

jab1 — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:59:16 GMT

How did your current connection get there? How can your neighbour prevent them? As @MisterW says, way-leaves must already be in place.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

bmc — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 14:01:52 GMT

@zaaxuk

If you still have a phone line then in the reasonable near future you will lose it and your internet service will transfer to a SOGEA line - this is basicaly FTTC with no phone service attached.

Your neighbours may decide to move one day - you never know.

Brian

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

Baldrick1 — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:15:29 GMT

@zaaxuk wrote:

As my neighbours will not allow cityfibre to go pass and never will. How will my line still work?

Does the installation need access to private land/property? As far as the public highway is concerned, I understand that full fibre installation is a permitted development, so requires no planning permission.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

Townman — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:00:12 GMT

Is City Fibre the only player in town?

They ought to be able to use BT ducts by agreement; given that they already have wayleaves, that ought to negate your neighbour's obstruction. That said, wayleaves do not last forever.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:17:49 GMT

There are no ducts between my house and the nearest box. Just a bundle of wires in the ground ( I saw them 4 years ago when an electrical contractor cut though them).

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:19:45 GMT

So does the Modem power the copper wires between my house and the box?

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:20:45 GMT

Yes privately owened closed and i am at the end of the close

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

jab1 — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:27:23 GMT

@zaaxuk Who 'owns' the close?

FTTP is passive - i.e. it doesn't need power.

You appear to have a Direct in Ground installation - if anyone in the close wants FTTP, whoever installs it will need to lay ducting - FTTP cables cannot be laid direct in ground.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

zaaxuk — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:30:33 GMT

The copper between my house and the local box will need it

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

jab1 — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:35:39 GMT

FTTP does not use copper, it is entirely fibre cable.

Re: No FTTP and there never will be

dvorak — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 11:59:14 GMT

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Re: No FTTP and there never will be

bmc — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 12:47:02 GMT

@zaaxuk

If your current supply is "Direct in Ground" the OpenReach would need to lay ducts to supply Full Fibre. They may, or may not, already have wayleaves in place from the original copper installation. If not, would OR be allowed to dig a trench for ducting. If no again then you're stuck on a FTTC service using the last mile of copper from the Cabinet.

If you put your address in the following what does it say about Full Fibre - www.openreach.co.uk

Brian