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Second Broadband line.

kiefels — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:53:45 GMT

Would it be possible to have a second broadband line connected?

Getting a little bit fed up with trying to stream whilst, gaming is going on in another room.

I know it's feasible but is it as simple as plugging in another router in a different phone point and setting up another network?

Re: Second Broadband line.

jab1 — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:59:13 GMT

Nope - not that simple, you need a completely new line, and I'm not that certain you can get then since the stop-sell on copper came into effect.

Re: Second Broadband line.

bmc — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:08:31 GMT

@kiefels

It would be helpful to know what is available to you network wise. If you can post a screen image from the following (after hiding your details) it would help Members to provide advice.

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

If possible, you'd need to pay for a second account.

Brian

Re: Second Broadband line.

HPsauce — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:34:58 GMT

@kiefels In a word "YES" I did it. You will have to phone in though and it will be a separate account extra cabling and probably have an installation charge. BTOR "should" also check (once the order is placed) that you really do want an extra line and the existing one is to remain.

What's available will depend on the exact situation where you are and the rules set by BTOR.

I added a FTTC (SOGEA) line in parallel to my old ADSL/POTS copper-to-the-exchange line. 60mbps vs 19mbps.

I was lucky in that the overhead cable to my house already had four pairs in it so the engineer had an easy job finding an unused pair for the line. I also pre-drilled a hole for his cable having worked out exactly where I wanted the new (additional) master socket.

I should also add that in due course I terminated the old ADSL service, transferred the phone number to VOIP (with A&A) and totally ceased the original line. Oddly it still has a dial tone and a (different) number allocated, though it won't make or receive calls other than engineer tests.

Re: Second Broadband line.

jab1 — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:35:33 GMT

Reading your post, @HPsauce makes me think I may have been wrong, but it all depends what this says if the customer enters their phone number : BT Broadband

Re: Second Broadband line.

HPsauce — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:37:10 GMT

as @bmc said, that information is needed to advise further and/or decide.

Re: Second Broadband line.

jab1 — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:38:43 GMT

Sorry, must have missed/forgotten that post.

Re: Second Broadband line.

Dan_the_Van — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:47:18 GMT

@jab1

I thought the stop sell was for WLR (Wholesale Line Rental) which is for landline phones, so any new connection would be SoGEA (Single order Generic Ethernet Access) where FTTP is NOT available.

Re: Second Broadband line.

jab1 — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:50:36 GMT

Maybe I should have been clearer in my reply to @HPsauce - I have realised that unless the OP is in a Fibre Priority area, they can still get a SoGEA connection.

Re: Second Broadband line.

kiefels — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 10:58:27 GMT

@bmc Hey, thanks for your answer, and I apologise for the extremely late reply.

Life and illness ceased the progress of this project.

Anyway

I give you the info you asked for.

Many thanks, for the assist, as all the Initialisms

Re: Second Broadband line.

bmc — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 13:58:07 GMT

@kiefels

Thanks for the information.

You should be receiving between 44 and 59 down. Can you run a speed test to check? If possible it needs to be on a wired connection with nothing running in the background.

How are the devices connected? If WiFi then this could be the problem, not the actual connection itself.

While I believe a second line is possible I'm not sure how it would work. You'd need a separate account with PN (or any other ISP) and would be paying two bills.

Brian

Re: Second Broadband line.

kiefels — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:00:11 GMT

Wired i'm receiving around 46, wireless 42.

I'm aware I may require a second account but my main concern is extra cabling. By that I mean, BT dragging in new lines.

I have no overhead cables as my estate is only 13 years old, all BT cables are underground.

So cost is probably negate my need.

Thanks for the info though

With all of this technology, we still rely on good old cables

Re: Second Broadband line.

Dan_the_Van — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:40:33 GMT

@kiefels

I had a new build property back in 1994, Openreach used a multi core cable (more than one pair) to the property. You may find yours to be the same,

Re: Second Broadband line.

bmc — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:14:55 GMT

@kiefels

You could take the face plate off the Master Socket and have a look at the incoming cable. It may have two or four twisted pairs. As a line only requires one pair then a second line could use one of the other pairs.

Others may comment on this but I think you would need a second Master Socket, router and power source.

Brian

Re: Second Broadband line.

HPsauce — Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:35:40 GMT

@kiefels I don't think the installation charge will change whatever cabling you currently have, though it's very likely to have spare pairs in it. If it doesn't they'll have to pull in a replacement.

As for checking the master socket, worth doing, though it may not prove much if there's a joint/junction between the main external underground cable and the socket.