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    <title>topic Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail in Email</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060070#M62951</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is a question to raise with Greenby.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/26334"&gt;@plusnettony&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;FYI - does this look like Gmail is already getting snotty with the Greenby gateway subsequent to the migration of relay.plus.net to their proxy?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 09:28:56 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-10-01T09:28:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2059922#M62882</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Has anyone come across this error reported by Gmail today 30/09/2026.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Reporting-MTA: dns; gateway1.enmail.co&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;X-Postfix-Queue-ID: ECB3F46454&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; {my email address .....plus.com}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Arrival-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 08:18:25 +0000 (UTC)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Final-Recipient: rfc822;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;{sending to gmail address}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Original-Recipient: rfc822;&amp;nbsp; {sending to gmail address}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Action: failed&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Status: 4.7.28&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Remote-MTA: dns; alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 421-4.7.28 Gmail has detected an unusual rate of mail&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;originating from your SPF 421-4.7.28 domain [&amp;lt;xxxxx&amp;gt;.plus.com &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;35].&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To protect our users from 421-4.7.28 spam, mail sent from your domain has&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;been temporarily rate limited. 421-4.7.28 For more information, go to&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;421-4.7.28 &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; to&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;421 4.7.28 review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;4fb4d7f45d1cf-6ae16d50391si1239068a12.208 - gsmtp&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Three separate emails all bounced....&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:14:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2059922#M62882</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-30T11:14:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060070#M62951</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is a question to raise with Greenby.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/26334"&gt;@plusnettony&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;FYI - does this look like Gmail is already getting snotty with the Greenby gateway subsequent to the migration of relay.plus.net to their proxy?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 09:28:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060070#M62951</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T09:28:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060087#M62962</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Possibly, it looks to be checking plus.com again as one email address (If I'm reading it correctly).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've sent a test message, and I'm just waiting for a bounce.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 11:23:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060087#M62962</guid>
      <dc:creator>plusnettony</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T11:23:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060095#M62968</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Possibly, it looks to be checking plus.com again as one email address (If I'm reading it correctly).&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can understand(to some extent!) why it did that previously when DKIM was implemented as 'relaxed' on the plus.com domain. However from looking at a test email sent yesterday, both DKIM &amp;amp; SPF are implemented on the &amp;lt;account&amp;gt;.plus.com subdomain, so what earthly reasoning does gmail have for treating everything as coming from the parent domain?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;but I guess gmail will do whatever they want to...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 11:50:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060095#M62968</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T11:50:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060098#M62969</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wait for Microsoft to re-adopt the same tactics...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 11:53:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060098#M62969</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T11:53:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060099#M62970</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;to answer my own question...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I guess where the parent domain is NOT a TLD , gmail are trying to preclude the trick of using subdomains to get around their rate limiting for a domain.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 11:57:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060099#M62970</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T11:57:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060100#M62971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm usually the very opposite of a Conspiracy Theorist but...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There has to be some 'rational'(?) explanation for this behaviour. I have noted comments online that this &lt;EM&gt;might&lt;/EM&gt; be construed as a tactic by both Gmail and Microsoft to completely take over the email business. Perhaps it is time for it to be looked into closely at an official level?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:01:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060100#M62971</guid>
      <dc:creator>pvmb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:01:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060102#M62973</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That idea was mentioned in the earlier 'discussions' on this subject,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/24565"&gt;@pvmb&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:02:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060102#M62973</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:02:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060103#M62974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;From:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?visit_id=639264466974178337-3459158831&amp;amp;p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError&amp;amp;rd=1#increase-volume-slowly&amp;amp;zippy=%2Crequirements-for-sending-or-more-messages-per-day" target="_blank"&gt;https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?visit_id=639264466974178337-3459158831&amp;amp;p=UnsolicitedRateLimitError&amp;amp;rd=1#increase-volume-slowly&amp;amp;zippy=%2Crequirements-for-sending-or-more-messages-per-day&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Starting February 1, 2024, email senders who send more than 5,000 messages per day to Gmail accounts must meet the requirements in this section.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Set up SPF and DKIM email authentication for your domain.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Set up DMARC email authentication for your sending domain. Your DMARC &lt;A href="https://support.google.com/a/answer/10032169#policy-options" target="_blank"&gt;enforcement policy&lt;/A&gt; can be set to none&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;relevant? Specifically, does Greenby add a DMARC record?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:11:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060103#M62974</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:11:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060108#M62978</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;relevant? Specifically, does Greenby add a DMARC record?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;An &amp;lt;account&amp;gt;.plus.com domain is unlikely to send &amp;gt;5000 messages / day, so it shouldnt apply.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;However AFAICS there IS a DMARC record defined for each &amp;lt;account&amp;gt;.plus.com domain.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For info, a test message I sent earlier this morning to a gmail address WAS delivered but marked as Spam.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:32:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060108#M62978</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:32:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060110#M62979</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My test came through as expected albeit delayed. I'll look at some other tests.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:36:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060110#M62979</guid>
      <dc:creator>plusnettony</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:36:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060116#M62983</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;/&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/38823"&gt;@Baldrick1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I just ran a MXToolBox query on my account.plus.com domain...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;There is no sub-domain DMARC record&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;There is a DMARC record for plus.com&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;That is reported by PlusNet's DNS service&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have attempted to configure a sub-domain (hosted domain) DMARC record in the Greenby portal following the AI support instructions.&amp;nbsp; The UI does not permit "_dmarc" as a host name.&amp;nbsp; I have an open fault report on the matter.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So from a validation point of view, DMARC remains unaltered.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What does perplex me is that MXToolBox is indicating that the queries are coming from PLUSNET's NS, not Greenby's.&amp;nbsp; A nslookup of the domain reports the NS as "primary name server = ns1.force9.net".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is DKIM on the subdomain - the MXToolBox query advises that was reported by Greenby's DNS.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:47:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060116#M62983</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T12:47:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060123#M62985</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For my &amp;lt;account&amp;gt;.plus.com domain MXtoolbox says there IS a DMARC record&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Odd though, mine reports the NS as ns1.plusnet.co.uk ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 13:01:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060123#M62985</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T13:01:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060126#M62986</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Could this possibly be residual from your account being used as a lab-rat for testing email domain verification options a few years back.&amp;nbsp; Remember you had SPF when others did not.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 13:07:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060126#M62986</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T13:07:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060127#M62987</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I was just thinking that...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 13:12:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060127#M62987</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T13:12:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060134#M62991</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Your Plusnet email account is not a sound point of reference ...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 13:38:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060134#M62991</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T13:38:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unsolicited Rate Limit Error - To Gmail</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060213#M63011</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I reported this exact issue on here 6 months ago (&lt;A href="https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Problems-sending-to-gmail/m-p/2041690" target="_blank"&gt;Problems sending to gmail - Plusnet Community&lt;/A&gt;). I don't think anything specific was done and eventually I was able to send to individual gmail addresses again but today the problem has returned. 70 minutes after sending an email I received exactly the same rejection message as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/129048"&gt;@offscotland&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 21:44:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unsolicited-Rate-Limit-Error-To-Gmail/m-p/2060213#M63011</guid>
      <dc:creator>abitpedantic</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-01T21:44:05Z</dc:date>
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