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    <title>topic Re: SMTP to almost anywhere apart from PN/Greenby in Email</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-to-almost-anywhere-apart-from-PN-Greenby/m-p/2040200#M59172</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;So these issues are still ongoing and sending mail to anywhere other than Greenby/PN addresses appears to be problematic often to the point of being almost impossible &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@6BD5E1FD9194A889D807C8E641344CF1/images/emoticons/sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can someome kindly confirm whether this is definitely part of the very well known long-outstanding problem with PN SMTP which apparently still hasn't been fixed or if it's a shiny new Greenby issue to add to the list or if it's something else entirely.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 06:47:45 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-12T06:47:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SMTP to almost anywhere apart from PN/Greenby</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-to-almost-anywhere-apart-from-PN-Greenby/m-p/2039559#M58946</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do I take it that PN's shiny new solution to stop other (allegedly) somewhat more professional email service providers from rejecting messages sent via relay.plus.net ... is perhaps to not actually accept them from customers in the first place ?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@7617B13E24C0CCAE119AD01B2BB73839/images/emoticons/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll_eyes" title="Roll_eyes" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;[QUOTE]&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Delivery to the following recipients failed permanently:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * test@mydomain.something&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Reason: A message that you sent to the following recipient could not be delivered due to a permanent error. ** The remote server ?? responded with: ** test@mydomain.something ??:?? This message was created automatically by mail delivery software on the server .&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Reporting-MTA: dns; avasout-peh-001 [212.159.14.17]&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Received-From-MTA: dns; Mikeb-XXXXXXXX [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Arrival-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2026 13:25:43 +0000&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Final-recipient: rfc822; test@mydomain.something&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - avasout-peh-001.plus.net [212.159.14.17]:53773 is in&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;Last-attempt-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2026 13:26:23 +0000&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;[/QUOTE]&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Because it would appear that I cannot send pretty much anything to pretty much anywhere today as most messages appear to be being rejected by avasout ... or is it the receiving end that's actually rejecting all messages from avasout &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3681646702FDFD32BCA97E2E5F1BDDD5/images/emoticons/huh.gif" alt="Huh" title="Huh" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;B*ggered if I know what's going on any more with quite so many simultaneous PN problems to deal with ! Especially with the quality of the 'informative' bounce message above which has been quoted verbatim from a plain text email &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@7617B13E24C0CCAE119AD01B2BB73839/images/emoticons/rolleyes.gif" alt="Roll_eyes" title="Roll_eyes" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What I do know however is that this ridiculous situation with PN/Greenby needs to stop or be stopped, one way or another, right now or else &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@5CA762C7B9B1D4AB36AAB959133ED0B4/images/emoticons/angry.gif" alt="Angry" title="Angry" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Even I don't have enough hours in the f*cking day to deal with [-Censored-] like this on a continual basis with every F9/PN A/C and every email address and every email client going titsup in one way or another. Absolutely everything that's worked mostly OK for 20 to 30 years no longer does and requires near constant manual intervention on an almost daily basis. This ridiculous level of complete incompetence cannot be allowed to go on. OFCOM really needs to get amongst this and do something to stop customers being so seriously abused by PN/Greenby.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I've wasted all day since 0500 hours b*ggering around due to waking up to yet another surprise partial migration to Greenby and with nothing working properly. If I had a decent rope and big enough tree in the garden then I'd probably be making very good use of it after having a decent cuppa and some nice biccies as my last meal &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@6BD5E1FD9194A889D807C8E641344CF1/images/emoticons/sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;PN/Greenby, please stop extracting quite so much urine quite so often, because it's gone way beyond any kind of sick joke now &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@5CA762C7B9B1D4AB36AAB959133ED0B4/images/emoticons/angry.gif" alt="Angry" title="Angry" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PS:&lt;/STRONG&gt; If the bounce message above is actually the receiving end rejecting mail from avasout (much like outloook, hotmail, gmail et al apparently are) then this really is taking the pee bigtime.&amp;nbsp; Why's that ? I hear you all ask. Simply because the receiving end in this particular instance is actually another ENIX branded service !!!!!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;That means one Enix brand permanently rejecting messages from another Enix brand when sent via PN as the Greenby system is currently being configured to do :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is it dinner time yet oh purveyor of the finest canine food products ever ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="dog waiting.jpg" style="width: 300px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.plus.net/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/62359iED2F8A199E1448A7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="dog waiting.jpg" alt="dog waiting.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 15:04:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-to-almost-anywhere-apart-from-PN-Greenby/m-p/2039559#M58946</guid>
      <dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-06T15:04:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP to almost anywhere apart from PN/Greenby</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-to-almost-anywhere-apart-from-PN-Greenby/m-p/2040200#M59172</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So these issues are still ongoing and sending mail to anywhere other than Greenby/PN addresses appears to be problematic often to the point of being almost impossible &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@6BD5E1FD9194A889D807C8E641344CF1/images/emoticons/sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can someome kindly confirm whether this is definitely part of the very well known long-outstanding problem with PN SMTP which apparently still hasn't been fixed or if it's a shiny new Greenby issue to add to the list or if it's something else entirely.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 06:47:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-to-almost-anywhere-apart-from-PN-Greenby/m-p/2040200#M59172</guid>
      <dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-12T06:47:45Z</dc:date>
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