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    <title>topic Re: SMTP error 452 (too many recipients in the last hour) in Email</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2040130#M59153</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;My mother is having this problem and it seems to be getting worse, in that outgoing emails are being rejected "too many recipients" even if sent jist after xx:00 when the counter is apparently reset.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;She's logged a call with Plusnet. I'm an authorised contact for my mother, so I see the emails which relate to the call. The call history makes an intersting assertion. I want to know whether there is any truth in it. The person who logged the call, seems to have suggested that if she reduces the number of incoming emails on the POP server, this will help outgoing mail to be sent.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE style="white-space: pre-line; display: block; width: 590px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" width="590"&gt;Once you have removed the large messages and freed up space, please be aware it can take up to 4 hours for the servers to update so that you can send emails again. (comment by James Anderson of Plusnet)&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'm intrigued how two weeks of incoming emails (earliest 25 February) can affect the sending of emails from an email client such as Outlook.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There are other issues:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;LI&gt;mail to Hotmail addresses are being permanently blocked by Hotmail because (it seems) Hotmail have blacklisted mail from Plusnet's servers - what are PN doing about resolving this, because an email system that cannot send to some addresses is not fit for purpose.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;incoming mail messages are being displayed twice (always twice, never more than that) on an Android mobile phone which is probably using the Samsung email client. Is there a definitive statement of what the correct POP settings (server, ports, encryption) should be, so I can get the phone's config checked against these. The problem has only recently started happening, whereas the phone config dates back a few years. It does not happen on Outlook on Windows.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I want to check on the plausiblility of the messages-on-server/sending-emails theory before I progress the call further.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is there a way in PN's Webmail of seeing the total size of all the messages on the server? Looking at the individual sizes, I think the total is about 40 MB which I wouldn't have thought was excessive. 108 messages, dating back to 25 February 2026.&lt;/LI&gt;
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    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:10:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>martinund</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-11T15:10:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SMTP error 452 (too many recipients in the last hour)</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017606#M51937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Anyone getting:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SMTP error (452): Failed to add recipient &lt;BR /&gt;recipient rejected - too many in the last hour&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not using VPN. Tried via PlusNet IP&lt;BR /&gt;Sent very few mails today and never more than a couple of recipients in each message.&lt;BR /&gt;Seems to be any address I try. Tried 4 different ones.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 13:24:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017606#M51937</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-14T13:24:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017610#M51938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;LOL.&lt;BR /&gt;As soon as I post, it's been "fixed"&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:15:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017610#M51938</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T14:15:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017639#M51939</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Not fixed here.&amp;nbsp; I see the same (Force9 email, sending from my Plusnet line) - choice and number of recipients makes no difference.&amp;nbsp; Bizarrely, the time does - lots of failures if sent at xx:53, xx:57, xx:59, but then everything starts working again a minute later at&amp;nbsp; xx:00.&amp;nbsp; So I now have to remember to only send emails just after the hour...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:24:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017639#M51939</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T16:24:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017645#M51940</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are sending a lot of emails, you will see this behaviour.&amp;nbsp; There are rate limits per hour and they are different depending on where you are sending from.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:45:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017645#M51940</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T16:45:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017651#M51941</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks - I've sent 3 emails today, each to 1 or a small number of recipients, so that doesn't sound too excessive to me.&amp;nbsp; Is my quota getting bundled up with a larger user base?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;David&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:15:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017651#M51941</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T17:15:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017653#M51942</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi David,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are you using a VPN?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If yes then the the sum of submissions from all users will be treated a single source.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are arguments for not using a VPN except for where there is a business need to connect securely to a remote network, as for instance connecting into a corporate network remotely, as though you were on the premises.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is very little legitimate reason for using a VPN to pretend you are elsewhere, more often than not, their use creates more real problems than they solve.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:33:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017653#M51942</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T17:33:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017661#M51943</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi David,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are you using a VPN?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No VPN - just my default, fixed IP address,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;David&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 20:37:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017661#M51943</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T20:37:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017681#M51945</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have also had a few of these errors this month:&amp;nbsp;452 &amp;lt;xxx@xxx&amp;gt; recipient rejected - too many recipient in last hour.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In both cases the email was to a single recipient, and was the first sent for at least an hour.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am also a Force9 user, with static IP, no VPN, sending to relay.force9.net, port 465 with SSL/TLS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 10:11:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017681#M51945</guid>
      <dc:creator>mavison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T10:11:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017693#M51947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ah, not fixed after all. Returned again today. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":neutral_face:"&gt;😐&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:42:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017693#M51947</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T13:42:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017694#M51948</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Curiously, around the same time as yesterday. PlusNet load issue maybe?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:43:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017694#M51948</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T13:43:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017897#M52029</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I can confirm the time issue of this error.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried sending a message every minute from 20:54 and it was bounced each time with the 452 error. As soon as the clock clicked to 21:00 the exact same message sent without a problem....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:04:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017897#M52029</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:04:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017898#M52030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What is the A.B.C.x IP address of those users experiencing the issue?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:13:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017898#M52030</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:13:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017899#M52031</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Tell me how to find that and I'll let you know. I am using Webmail with Windows 7 Professional and have done for many years.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:22:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017899#M52031</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:22:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017900#M52032</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What is the A.B.C.x IP address of those users experiencing the issue?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For me:&amp;nbsp;212.56.120.x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:24:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:24:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017902#M52033</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Connection-specific DNS Suffix&amp;nbsp; . : lan&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::9c47:f53a:12c1:a900%10&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:36:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017902#M52033</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:36:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017903#M52034</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/129048"&gt;@offscotland&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tell me how to find that and I'll let you know.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://whatismyipaddress.com/" target="_blank"&gt;https://whatismyipaddress.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:47:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017904#M52035</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That’s the LAN address - it is the WAN address which is relevant - use what’s my IP address&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:50:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:50:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017906#M52036</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My WAN address&amp;nbsp; is 84.92.10.xx (static)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:09:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017906#M52036</guid>
      <dc:creator>mavison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T21:09:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017910#M52037</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Oh!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That points away from a suspect profile.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:37:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017910#M52037</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T21:37:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017920#M52043</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See attached&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2025 07:44:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017920#M52043</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-23T07:44:26Z</dc:date>
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