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    <title>topic Re: SMTP error 452 (too many recipients in the last hour) in Email</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2037863#M58291</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;How do people know when they have been migrated to Greenby? What is the sequence of notifications that should be received? The last communciation I've had is Plusnet's "Migrations will take place on 18 January". For those people who have definitely been migrated, should there be any communication from Greenby to say "we now adminster your email"? And is that email sent to every mailbox, or only to postmaster@&amp;lt;username&amp;gt;.plus.com or postmaster@&amp;lt;username&amp;gt;.force9.co.uk (given that few peoplke ever monitor "postmaster@"?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does Greenby's webmail still use the same username notation of the form "username+mailbox" and with the same password as was used for Plusnet's webmail?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does the fact that Plusnet's webmail still accepts logins and has up-to-date email tend to suggest that migration has ot yet happened? I presume so!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It would be useful if PN had said "you will receive an email from Greenby saying XYZ" so you know that if you don't receive it, you haven;t yet been migrated.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What is the situation with PN email accounts that no longer are associated with a PN internet account? Do they get migrated automatically or is any manual intervention required from the user? Given that Greenby will be charging for those accounts, how do they contact people to set up a direct debit?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So many unanswered questions. So much misinformation - PN even said that our email had been migrated ages ago to Greenby, but PN's webmail still has up to date email messages, so presumably it hasn't.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And what is the situation about PN webspace and a domain that points to it? Will that all be migrated seamlessly, with the PN FTP server and username/password remaining the same? PN don't seem to know.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I get the distinct impression that PN are lobbing the ball over into Greenby's court and not checking whether Greenby are picking it up. A very sloppy process.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 10:20:24 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>martinund</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-16T10:20:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SMTP error 452 (too many recipients in the last hour)</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017606#M51937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Anyone getting:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SMTP error (452): Failed to add recipient &lt;BR /&gt;recipient rejected - too many in the last hour&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not using VPN. Tried via PlusNet IP&lt;BR /&gt;Sent very few mails today and never more than a couple of recipients in each message.&lt;BR /&gt;Seems to be any address I try. Tried 4 different ones.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator's note:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Title amended to improve understandability&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 13:24:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017606#M51937</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-14T13:24:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017610#M51938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;LOL.&lt;BR /&gt;As soon as I post, it's been "fixed"&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:15:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017610#M51938</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T14:15:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017639#M51939</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Not fixed here.&amp;nbsp; I see the same (Force9 email, sending from my Plusnet line) - choice and number of recipients makes no difference.&amp;nbsp; Bizarrely, the time does - lots of failures if sent at xx:53, xx:57, xx:59, but then everything starts working again a minute later at&amp;nbsp; xx:00.&amp;nbsp; So I now have to remember to only send emails just after the hour...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:24:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017639#M51939</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T16:24:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017645#M51940</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are sending a lot of emails, you will see this behaviour.&amp;nbsp; There are rate limits per hour and they are different depending on where you are sending from.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:45:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017645#M51940</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T16:45:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017651#M51941</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks - I've sent 3 emails today, each to 1 or a small number of recipients, so that doesn't sound too excessive to me.&amp;nbsp; Is my quota getting bundled up with a larger user base?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;David&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:15:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017651#M51941</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T17:15:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017653#M51942</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi David,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are you using a VPN?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If yes then the the sum of submissions from all users will be treated a single source.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are arguments for not using a VPN except for where there is a business need to connect securely to a remote network, as for instance connecting into a corporate network remotely, as though you were on the premises.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is very little legitimate reason for using a VPN to pretend you are elsewhere, more often than not, their use creates more real problems than they solve.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:33:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017653#M51942</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T17:33:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017661#M51943</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi David,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are you using a VPN?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No VPN - just my default, fixed IP address,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;David&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 20:37:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017661#M51943</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-19T20:37:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017681#M51945</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have also had a few of these errors this month:&amp;nbsp;452 &amp;lt;xxx@xxx&amp;gt; recipient rejected - too many recipient in last hour.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In both cases the email was to a single recipient, and was the first sent for at least an hour.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am also a Force9 user, with static IP, no VPN, sending to relay.force9.net, port 465 with SSL/TLS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 10:11:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017681#M51945</guid>
      <dc:creator>mavison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T10:11:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017693#M51947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ah, not fixed after all. Returned again today. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":neutral_face:"&gt;😐&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:42:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017693#M51947</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T13:42:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017694#M51948</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Curiously, around the same time as yesterday. PlusNet load issue maybe?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:43:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017694#M51948</guid>
      <dc:creator>B0n3s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-20T13:43:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017897#M52029</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I can confirm the time issue of this error.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried sending a message every minute from 20:54 and it was bounced each time with the 452 error. As soon as the clock clicked to 21:00 the exact same message sent without a problem....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:04:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017897#M52029</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:04:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017898#M52030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What is the A.B.C.x IP address of those users experiencing the issue?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:13:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017898#M52030</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:13:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017899#M52031</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Tell me how to find that and I'll let you know. I am using Webmail with Windows 7 Professional and have done for many years.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:22:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017899#M52031</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:22:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017900#M52032</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What is the A.B.C.x IP address of those users experiencing the issue?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For me:&amp;nbsp;212.56.120.x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:24:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017900#M52032</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:24:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017902#M52033</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Connection-specific DNS Suffix&amp;nbsp; . : lan&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::9c47:f53a:12c1:a900%10&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:36:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017902#M52033</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:36:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017903#M52034</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/129048"&gt;@offscotland&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tell me how to find that and I'll let you know.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://whatismyipaddress.com/" target="_blank"&gt;https://whatismyipaddress.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017903#M52034</guid>
      <dc:creator>d-dixon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:47:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017904#M52035</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That’s the LAN address - it is the WAN address which is relevant - use what’s my IP address&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:50:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017904#M52035</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T20:50:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017906#M52036</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My WAN address&amp;nbsp; is 84.92.10.xx (static)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:09:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017906#M52036</guid>
      <dc:creator>mavison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T21:09:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017910#M52037</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Oh!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That points away from a suspect profile.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 21:37:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017910#M52037</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-22T21:37:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SMTP error 452</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017920#M52043</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See attached&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2025 07:44:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/SMTP-error-452-too-many-recipients-in-the-last-hour/m-p/2017920#M52043</guid>
      <dc:creator>offscotland</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-23T07:44:26Z</dc:date>
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