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I have just had a word Censored

zedingrove — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:55:30 GMT

Why???
Please go here and look up the word that was Censored http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crap ; You will note it is a Noun...

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Oldjim — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:58:01 GMT

I don't care - don't use it

Re: I have just had a word Censored

zedingrove — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:21:16 GMT

Boy did you get my goat up, but then I read this article titled "What is a Forum Moderator?"
Think you should have that some where on here because after reading it, I thought fair play and all that...
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-forum-moderator.htm
Have a question when posters put links up they use a Hyper link yet when ever I try it does not work, just like upload a picture, can browse
and select picture file but not upload?
Cheers

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Oldjim — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:37:39 GMT

Because you aren't doing it correctly
This is the format [img]http://www.plus.net/images/satisfaction/homepage/icon_trans_which.png[/img] which gives

and just to be clear the Forum swear filter is there for a specific reason and if a word falls foul of it - tough luck think of an alternative

Re: I have just had a word Censored

w23 — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:43:57 GMT

Bear in mind there could be impressionable youngsters reading here (as well as us sensitive oldies).
The rules are in place for the benefit of all and the moderators contribute their own time to keep everything shipshape.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

zedingrove — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:35:29 GMT

Cool thanks for the tip.... Wise One

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:27:50 GMT

Quote from: walker23
Bear in mind there could be impressionable youngsters reading here

Cobblers, when was the last time (if ever) anyone who could be considered an "impressionable youngster" contributed to this forum ?
The youngest that I remember was Amanha, revising for their GCSEs and getting ready for sixth form, so beyond being an "impressionable youngster".
While I'm not advocating this forum removing the swear filter, in my opinion some mildly questionable forum content has been moderated to protect a hypothetical (i.e. non-existent) minority of the intended audience. I think this idea that children frequented this site might have been true back in the pre-Plusnet Force9 dial-up days when there used to be a section in the community pages, where there were a number of simple flash/java games which would keep children amused for hours - but as far as I can tell, those pages have long since disappeared as have the children.
What "impressionable youngsters" DO access these days is "YouTube", which particularly in the comments below the videos, is littered with expletives and unacceptable language (even if any children did take any notice of the T&Cs regarding needing to be 13 years old to use the service). I find it particularly disappointing when my eight year old is set school homework to watch some "YouTube" clips and then write a summary of what they have seen, only to discover the set homework video's has associated pages and pages of disgusting comments that other "YouTube" members have posted.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anotherone — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:30:34 GMT

Yes, some teaching methods seem somewhat ill thought out these days.
I wouldn't be so sure about "..........long since disappeared as have the children."
There's plenty that have thrown their rattles out of the pram before they've finished the first sentence, never mind those that should have gone to specsavers.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:55:32 GMT

Really ?, what is there of the slightest interest in this forum that would keep a child's attention for more than a millisecond ?
Most of this forum is either moaning about a specific technical broadband related issue, or chit chat between mostly grumpy old gits or the unemployed.
There is nothing here that is 'cool', and children are much more likely to frequent social networks where they can exchange their views with others of their own age group, or gaming, or watching streaming videos and catch-up TV.
I challenge any child (and not prompted to do so be their parent), that if they are reading this thread, to post a reply here that says -
"Hello my name is little Timmy, aged 11, I frequently read the Plusnet forum threads, and 'purleigh' you are wrong !"

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anotherone — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:03:16 GMT

I think you might have mis-interpreted the word 'children'

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:27:38 GMT

@Anotherone - OK just for you -
"Hello my name is little Willy, aged 5, my Daddy won't let me touch his computer and he keeps me locked up under the apple and pears, he says I can't go on the Plusnet forum until I can speak proper and don't act like a royal hampton.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

jelv — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:36:21 GMT

So you are advocating that because sites like YouTube end up with unsavoury comments these forums should lower the bar for acceptable language? Just because other places have poor standards doesn't mean these forums should copy them. There's only one place a policy like that will end - in the gutter! If you don't believe me take a look at a the recent threads on on p.s.c-f (which is obviously uncensored) - we don't want any episodes like that on here!
These forums are here for a purpose. Please explain how lowering standards will further that purpose.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

dvorak — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:45:37 GMT

Quote from: purleigh
Quote from: walker23
Bear in mind there could be impressionable youngsters reading here

Cobblers, when was the last time (if ever) anyone who could be considered an "impressionable youngster" contributed to this forum ?

I think I contribute a reasonable amount and compared to most of you I'm only just out of nappies..

Re: I have just had a word Censored

w23 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:46:55 GMT

Thank you jelv, let's keep up the standards for everyone's benefit.
I don't think anyone's advocating a lowering of standards (I hope not anyway).
Whether or not children do read these forums, who can say but they are 'open to the public' for viewing and may contain ~~much~~ something of interest to the occasional 'geeky' youngster or keen internet gamer.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

paulh — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:53:25 GMT

Quote from: jelv
take a look at a the recent threads on on p.s.c-f (which is obviously uncensored) -

What's that? I googled but all I got was the Pennsylvania State Chess Federation and Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith

Re: I have just had a word Censored

jelv — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:58:13 GMT

Sorry plusnet.service.customer-feedback
Here's a link to the first post of the thread I referred to: news://usenet.plus.net:119/vvWdnQtH98nZ8GnSnZ2dnUVZ7rqdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:02:07 GMT

@Jelv - I'm not saying that at all.
Firstly I think 'YouTube' should increase it's responsibility, and automatically remove ALL blatant offensive language in the follow-up comments, and bar persistent offenders.
It should also introduce an age rating scheme, as applies to DVD films or computer games, so that responsible parents can control what is appropriate for their child to see.
Secondly, related to this forum, I am merely questioning the level at which the bar of acceptability is set, and that level should be relevant for the actual forum audience (i.e. adults) and not arbitrarily set to such a low level that everything has to be sanitised so that young children won't ever be offended - because I don't believe that "impressionable youngsters" frequent this forum, unless you can prove me wrong ?
If I ruled the world, I would set the moderation to what would be acceptable for say a 15 year old to see.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

paulh — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:06:48 GMT

thanks jelv.
I'll now return to the darkness of my cave until the next speed upgrade email wakes me up ...

Re: I have just had a word Censored

jelv — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:07:34 GMT

To me it's not children, it's anyone who may be offended. Last time I checked Plusnet's T&Cs I didn't spot anything that said that vicars, nuns, elderly spinsters or any other groups who might be offended by bad language were not allowed to be a Plusnet user.

Re: I have just had a word Censored

Strat — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:09:02 GMT

Just as an aside my 6 year old grandson browses the PN forum as a guest....he's seen me do it and copied me.
He remembered the URL and typed it into Firefox on his profile. They are quite smart even at that age.
PS He doesn't know my username or password so he can't post or moderate