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Forum pages reloading

Townman — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:35:33 GMT

Has anyone else noticed forum pages reloading?

I am definitely seeing the below far too regularly using MS Edge on Win11 and I'm sure I have see it occasionally on Win10 and my iPhone.

Various pages reload after initial loading and something being done on that page. Notably I have experienced...

Load the notification page - see a number of new notifications - then the page reloads and the new notification flags have (as designed) gone
Seek to reply to a post, get the post screen up and start typing only for the page to refresh and what has been typed is lost. In some environments / situations there is a warning that the page wants to reload and content will be lost - clicking cancel simply redisplays the message, the only option is to reload
Click a link to a post see it and then the page reloads positioning that the top of the page

I have not yet clearly discerned a means of reproducing this at will.

Moderators Note: Typo corrected.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Penny — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:13:23 GMT

@Townman wrote:

Has anyone else noticed form pages reloading?

I am definitely seeing the below far too regularly using MS Edge on Win11 and I'm sure I have see it occasionally on Win10 and my iPhone.

Various pages reload after initial loading and something being done on that page.

Yes, have seen the auto-reload, but tbh had put it down to the recent Edge updates which (like Windows updates) often resolve themselves eventually.

However, here, this is happening without "something being done on that page", eg when I opened the page with your post above on it, it suddenly did a brief disappear (fleeting, like a photo being taken) then re-established itself in almost the same, or the same, position (that's how it seemed, like when you do a double-take on something and you're not absolutely certain it looks identical to the first time).

The auto-reload is happening often enough now - combined with the fact that you've posted about it - to cause me to wonder if it is indeed a forum-based issue - yes it might well be down to Edge but - realistically - I haven't seen it happen anywhere else but here.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Townman — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:32:22 GMT

Thanks Penny, you are confirming what I am seeing and amplifying it.

Yes some pages are flashing on loading - your post accessed via the notification link - flashed after being displayed. I have seen this before, but had not linked it to the issue I've reported. I am only noticing this on this forum.

Re: Forum pages reloading

dvorak — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:36:53 GMT

Don't think I've noticed it.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Penny — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:46:52 GMT

... you on Edge, @dvorak (?)

I'm seeing this with Edge on a desktop PC, if I didn't clarify that previously.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Townman — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:47:02 GMT

What browser / environment do you use?

Given the marked difference we see in the user portal between browsers and the same browser but a different OS ... nothing appearing inconsistent would surprise me any more!

Re: Forum pages reloading

dvorak — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:56:33 GMT

I'm using Edge, but on a decent OS (macOS)

Re: Forum pages reloading

PeeGee — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:07:44 GMT

Just noticed this when I opened the page to reply - using Firefox (97.0.1) with Linux. The "reply boxes" appeared, blinked and the discussion details we added.

I have previously seen the same effect with a different website I use regularly.

Some sort of optimised loading?

Re: Forum pages reloading

Penny — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:17:03 GMT

@dvorak wrote:

I'm using Edge, but on a decent OS (macOS)

Interesting you're not seeing the re-loads, then. The desktop here uses Windows 10 (not my PC, or I'd be back on Windows 7 with Office 2003, but that's a whole other story).

Re: Forum pages reloading

Jonpe — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:19:34 GMT

I'm not sure if it's the same thing but something similar at least started happening a couple of weeks ago. I'm using FF (always the latest version) in W10. I put it down to my slow connection or using the 'wrong' browser and actually thought about trying Edge to see if it would help.

Re: Forum pages reloading

jab1 — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 11:05:37 GMT

@PeeGee wrote:

Just noticed this when I opened the page to reply - using Firefox (97.0.1) with Linux. The "reply boxes" appeared, blinked and the discussion details we added.

I have previously seen the same effect with a different website I use regularly.

Some sort of optimised loading?

Using FF98.0.1 on Zorin 15.3 (Ubuntu-based) I don't see this, unless it is so quick I miss it.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Strat — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 11:24:50 GMT

I'm seeing it W10 current Firefox.

Re: Forum pages reloading

198kHz — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 11:53:16 GMT

Ah, it's not just me then - seeing it regularly with Win 10 and FF 98.0.1.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Baldrick1 — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:12:06 GMT

Yesterday twice whilst replying to a post I had this happen. I assumed that it was finger trouble and couldn’t work out what I had done. This was using an iPad running Safari.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Townman — Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:44:44 GMT

@PeeGee wrote:

Some sort of optimised loading?

Does FF have "System and performance" 'optimisation' setting similar to MS Edge?

I think these are comparatively recent in Edge.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Penny — Tue, 22 Mar 2022 22:25:11 GMT

I have a screenshot : D

The auto-reload has been happening a lot more since all the posts a couple of days back - have been finding nearly every move of page causes another one.

Had tried to photograph (the desktop screen) a couple of hours back with mobile phone, but attempting to coordinate the page change with taking the photograph didn't result in capturing the very-fleeting "something else" that appeared before the new page reasserted itself.

However after posting elsewhere just now, it occurred to me to use the "print screen" button on the keyboard. And hey presto.

Intrigued as to what "collection decibel insight" might refer to (bottom left of screenshot).

Re: Forum pages reloading

Townman — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 07:02:09 GMT

@Penny well done on capturing the zebra screen which points to screen loading and rendering inefficiency. I’ve seen this it looks ugly but is not as functionally annoying as the full page refresh after one has started to “use” the page.

Seen the zebra but not motivated to report it - thank you for doing so and catching it!

Re: Forum pages reloading

dvorak — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:18:13 GMT

@Penny interesting to see that you don't have any plugins.

Wonder if my array of ad / tracking blockers are preventing the weird behaviour.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Townman — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:32:25 GMT

I have an add blocker in Edge.

Do not see the zebra in safari.

Re: Forum pages reloading

Mook — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 09:00:44 GMT

The only plugin I have is Safari v15.4 is AdBlock running on macOS Monterey v12.3 but it is paused for this site. I have seen these bars for long enough. They don't always appear but they're lurking in the background.

Edit :- I forgot to mention that I have Auto Reload installed as well but for me these bars were appearing long before I installed it.