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    <title>topic Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle in Community Site Feedback</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1611399#M15074</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I thought the trace over 4G looked odd - indeed I wondered if I could trust the ping app on the phone.&amp;nbsp; Therefore I switched the phone on to WiFi and got a trace very similar to that in post #60 - swapped back to 4G and got the above again.&amp;nbsp; Flipped-flopped a couple of times and traces were identical.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Switched the phone down to 3G only and got the same trace as in #61.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Whilst network routing might have some impact on the overall experience, there is still a substantial amount which ought to be done to tune content caching and component loading.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Why are images (graphics) not cached, thereby requiring them to be re-downloaded on each page load?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Other elements could be better optimised - for example style sheets and code files&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Rendering (after down loading) is very variable - it is possible to see the detailed reformatting using Win10 Edge&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Why are the chat service components (live person) referenced at all from community pages - they are not necessary and are constantly utilising bandwidth polling the server&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Has Lithium actually sat down and run diagnostic console loads of the various parts of the site on ALL of the common popular browsers and compared the user experience … or are we suffering the somewhat prevalent attitude of developers "We think Firefox is ace so if that's not your browser then tough, we are not testing the product experience on other platforms"?&amp;nbsp; Being anti Microsoft might be fashionable and hip, but it is not helpful.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:02:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-02-06T14:02:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604176#M14970</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is it just me, or are others having issues with the forum? Pages are taking forever to load and sometimes, the links need to be clicked again just to "kick" the page back into life. 10- 30 seconds for the page to begin to respond is not uncommon with "waiting for community.plus.net" in the bottom corner.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Marksfish</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-08T18:50:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604187#M14971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's not just you &lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/27721"&gt;@Marksfish&lt;/a&gt; and Plusnet are aware.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:05:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604187#M14971</guid>
      <dc:creator>Strat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-08T19:05:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604214#M14972</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's good to know. It has been slow since I rejoined, but this last week has been terrible. Hoping it gets better soon.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:32:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604214#M14972</guid>
      <dc:creator>Marksfish</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-08T20:32:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604247#M14974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The ebay forum used to be just a little bit faster but lately ebay is like lightning compared to plusnet.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Often there's time to put the kettle on while waiting.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What can you say about plusnet.....................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They have lots of ads and.........................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Plusnet are aware"&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yeh it's on their service status page NOT&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:10:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604247#M14974</guid>
      <dc:creator>billnotben</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-08T23:10:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604251#M14975</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sometimes OK for me, sometimes not, but there have been some severe slow downs in the last week or so.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:18:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>198kHz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-08T23:18:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604276#M14976</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Exactly as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/9063"&gt;@198kHz&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- aggravatingly slow most of yesterday, not too bad so far today...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:24:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JayG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T09:24:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604281#M14977</link>
      <description>performance today is much quicker than yesterday for me.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604281#M14977</guid>
      <dc:creator>dvorak</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T09:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604284#M14978</link>
      <description>&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/213"&gt;@Strat&lt;/a&gt; - “Plusnet are aware”?  Elsewhere it’s reported that they cannot reproduce it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;All,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you encounter poor performance can you please report the same here.  Please identify...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Date / time&lt;BR /&gt;Browser / OS&lt;BR /&gt;Board&lt;BR /&gt;Functionality being used&lt;BR /&gt;Nature of issue&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;More information might help better profile the issues.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:54:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604284#M14978</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T09:54:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604291#M14979</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We've been trying to replicate this internally without success so thank you all for letting us know that you're finding the pages slow to load.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13895"&gt;@billnotben&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Plusnet are aware"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yeh it's on their service status page NOT&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We're unlikely to put a service status up about slowdowns on our community forums that we're unable to replicate internally, but I do understand your frustration and we will now be raising this with Lithium to investigate.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 10:08:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604291#M14979</guid>
      <dc:creator>JonoH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T10:08:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604442#M14980</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It has been an ongoing intermittent problem for some time, see &lt;A href="https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/SIte-load-process-performance/m-p/1562615#M14603" target="_blank"&gt;this thread.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For me it has been mostly OK recently but later on Monday and most of yesterday performance was pretty dire!&amp;nbsp; Today, it's quite sprightly&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@0FA1396AC0773F33E2DC472BB4F75D3C/images/emoticons/wink.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I mostly&amp;nbsp; use Windows 7 Pro and FF 64.0 (64 bit) but have also seen the slowdowns when using Chrome.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:12:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604442#M14980</guid>
      <dc:creator>MauriceC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T15:12:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604489#M14981</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16905"&gt;@JonoH&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
We're unlikely to put a service status up about slowdowns on our community forums that we're unable to replicate internally, but I do understand your frustration and we will now be raising this with Lithium to investigate.
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not trying to be funny though it's very hard to avoid but haven't you missed out "anything".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"We're unlikely to put a service status up about..................."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 17:26:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1604489#M14981</guid>
      <dc:creator>billnotben</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-09T17:26:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607307#M14986</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I miss the fast and easy to read pre-Lithium setup &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:22:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-21T11:22:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607475#M15012</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The problem is incredibly random!&amp;nbsp; This morning it was super fast; mid afternoon 20 - 30 secs to load a new page; currently random between 5 - 30 secs?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:55:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607475#M15012</guid>
      <dc:creator>MauriceC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-21T16:55:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607499#M15013</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;About a week ago I started blocking plusnet.tt.omtrdc.net. Not because apparently it's a tracker and I was concerned about my non-existent privacy, but because it seemed a fairly slow component and I was seeing it in the status area connecting or waiting for it quite often. Perhaps the forums are slightly faster without it, but not by a lot. Some people may have some form of tracking protection blocking it already.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2019 18:18:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607499#M15013</guid>
      <dc:creator>ejs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-21T18:18:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607888#M15017</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's treacle again this morning!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Date / time:&amp;nbsp; 23/01/2019 :&amp;nbsp; 09:10&lt;BR /&gt;Browser / OS:&amp;nbsp; Win7 Pro FF 64.0.2 (64 bit)&lt;BR /&gt;Board:&amp;nbsp; SU Escalations&lt;BR /&gt;Functionality being used.&amp;nbsp; Reply then Report to Moderator&lt;BR /&gt;Nature of issue:&amp;nbsp; 20 - 25 secs to complete a post&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:15:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MauriceC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-23T09:15:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607901#M15018</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We raised it again with Lithium and they're viewing this thread and running some tests their end, they've already restarted the forum but it appears not to help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:35:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JonoH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-23T09:35:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1607909#M15019</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16905"&gt;@JonoH&lt;/a&gt; Thanks for the update. As reported, most of the site is&amp;nbsp;horribly slow, although the&lt;STRONG&gt; very&lt;/STRONG&gt; odd time, it behaves as it should.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:59:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-23T09:59:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Painful browsing the forum, like wading through treacle</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Site-Feedback/Painful-browsing-the-forum-like-wading-through-treacle/m-p/1608233#M15020</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can I echo the other reports? The site feels extremely slow most of the time (typically 6 seconds or longer to load a page) and occasionally has a burst in speed which lasts for a couple of minutes, It's pretty tedious browsing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Most of the time&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Firefox 64.0.2 / Windows 10&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All boards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;General browsing&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Slow loading of pages&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2019 10:53:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mac51</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-24T10:53:21Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16905"&gt;@JonoH&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We raised it again with Lithium and they're viewing this thread and running some tests their end, they've already restarted the forum but it appears not to help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any response from Lithium, &lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16905"&gt;@JonoH&lt;/a&gt;? The site was a little quicker about eight hours or so after you posted the above, but it has got &lt;STRONG&gt;considerably&lt;/STRONG&gt; worse over the past 36 hours or so - up to 40 second to load a page after you hit enter!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:48:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-25T13:48:43Z</dc:date>
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      <description>What are Lithium doing when they “look at it”?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A need to restart the service clearly points to bugs - what is being done to fix them?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What is being done to address the reports of poor cache management?  The static payload of this site is sizeable. Not everything which ought to be cached is being cached leading to content (for example graphics) being reloaded on every page refresh.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also where such content is being correctly cached, users who expressly clear their cache (for no particularly good reason) will see a degraded experience.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 08:40:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-27T08:40:27Z</dc:date>
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