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Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:48:13 GMT

I guess Joe Blog and other forum members cannot see these, and why should they be able to - but can plusnet mods and admins. Again I'm guessing yes, so where there is a need how can they be kept totally private?

Just a thought in this world of total surveillance.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Mav — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:51:32 GMT

If you're talking about PMs then, as far as I'm aware, the only people who can see them are the sender and the recipient.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

nadger — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:52:42 GMT

@Minivanman On forums where I'm either admin or mod I can only see private messages addressed to me and no others.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

St3 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:53:05 GMT

I doubt they see any text you pass onto another person but it might show up as ip contact ip or whatever are these forums part of smf still ?

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:54:30 GMT

@Mav

Well my heart hopes yes, but my head says no.

Can you confirm either way?

PS. No secrets to keep, just wondering.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

St3 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:55:52 GMT

I doubt it because i sent @Mav a message once saying you look sexy and no one found out

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:56:30 GMT

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Mav — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:56:53 GMT

Mods definitely can't.

Pretty sure admins can't, either.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

St3 — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:57:44 GMT

Forum mods/admins who aint directly employed by plusnet would not be allowed to have access to this infomation i would have thought anyways due to data protection ... blaaaa

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Gandalf — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 10:17:42 GMT

I can't.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

gleneagles — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:38:38 GMT

Whilst the op has been answered correctly consider the following.....

Forum member x sends a private message to forum member y. The content contains material that forum member Y considers offensive and reports it to the police. PN will then be required to pass a copy to the police/courts so a number of other people will have access to that Private Message.

So we can never say that PM are private in every instance, I guess this situation has never occured to date but who can predict the future, remember some forum posts have been deleted due to inappropriate comments but moderators cannot see the contents of a PM and thus block it based on the content.

PS: In pedantic mood this morning.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:49:39 GMT

So the answer is yes, plusnet can see them if they want to, but it's not normal practice to do so?

Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krD4hdGvGHM

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Oldjim — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:54:10 GMT

presumably it would need database access and I would assume that would be heavily restricted

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Mav — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:57:19 GMT

@Minivanman wrote:

So the answer is yes, plusnet can see them if they want to,

Not sure from where you gleaned that conclusion?

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:16:24 GMT

From the post that @gleneagles made I assume, and makes sense I guess. There is a report to mods option on messages they must be viewable (or made viewable) in order to act on a report.

If someone wants to send me a PM I can report it to prove the theory.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:56:29 GMT

@Mav

Well as @gleneagles pointed out Mav, if a member was offensive via a private message to another member (or even here for that matter) then if it was reported to the police they would be required to supply a copy of what was said ergo, plusnet can see them if they want to...... unless you are suggesting that they would not be able to do that.

Just saying.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Oldjim — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:28:09 GMT

Report to Mod includes a copy of the PM

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:03:03 GMT

That makes sense @Oldjim

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Townman — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:07 GMT

I do not think I'm quite seeing the problem here ... if one is concerned that someone (other then the addressees) might see the content of a PM (not explicitly stated in the OP) ... surely the answer is do not send anything private, sensitive or that disclosure might give rise to embarrassment.

We seem to have such great concern over who can see what we write, yet so little concern about what we actually write.

Re: Contacting members direct and off Forum

Minivanman — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 04:13:52 GMT

@Townman

So what you are saying is we should assume nothing is private, even when we think it is.

Well that sounds about right, but our egg sucking granny knew that anyway of course - she just thought she'd ask.