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Posting in English Language only please

zembu — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:35:17 GMT

I think that posts in any language other than English should not be allowed on this site.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

jelv — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:52:41 GMT

Other than in the specific Polish forum they are not.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Chris — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:00:22 GMT

This is covered in the [Forum Rules]

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:27:07 GMT

So like i said in my thread that was locked for no reason, to allow one foreign language but not others is discrimination and could fall foul of race laws.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

James — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:56:40 GMT

It can't be discrimination as that would be a legal term whereas yours is just an opinion

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:02:54 GMT

I did say "could" . I have a friend in the real world who is a solicitor and i asked him a few days back and he said, as a business when you go down the road of picking other minority languages over others and disallowing them can be deemed as discrimination and the company involved could open up a can of worms for them selves. Would you dispute that ?

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Liam — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:06:53 GMT

It's not discriminatory. We offer a Polish service because we have the staff ability to do so. Just because we offer a Polish service, does not mean we need to for every language. The Polish forum is part of the Polish service and that is why it exists.
Elsewhere on the forums, the language used should be English so that the moderators are able to moderate effectively.
This is in no way discriminatory.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:14:14 GMT

When i say different to plusnet, its an opinion, but if plusnet say it, its what exactly? Of course its discrimination. If i choose to post in Italian in here it will be deleted. if i choose to post in polish its not. If that's not discrimination and you define the word for me please ?
treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discrimination

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Chris — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:16:47 GMT

If you choose to post in Polish in the main forums, then it will be dealt with in the same way as any other non-English post. The only area that Polish can be posted is in the Polish specific forum, this is so the Polish staff here can offer support to the customers that have signed up for our Polish service.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

jelv — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:23:55 GMT

Dusty, we've heard your views many times and I for one think you've flogged this to death. As far as I can tell nobody else sees this as an issue.
If you are convinced you are right I suggest you report the matter to the appropriate authority, otherwise please shut up!

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Big_Fred — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:34:02 GMT

Quote from: jelv
Dusty, we've heard your views many times and I for one think you've flogged this to death. As far as I can tell nobody else sees this as an issue.
If you are convinced you are right I suggest you report the matter to the appropriate authority, otherwise please shut up!

Well said jelv.
Another case of England gone PC mad again!! and I don't mean the one I'm using to type this.
BF.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:34:28 GMT

No one sees this as an issue ? I never started the thread so that blows that one away.
I get it i cant have an opinion because plusnet staff and forum bright sparks say differnt. So you are saying i cant have an opinion voice what iv been told by people in the know, because iv said it before? Or is it because its not what plusnet want to hear . I think the later.
Maybe this thread will be locked or my post deleted. Its not like its happened before and when i complain it falls on death ears.
Can someone please tell me if plusnet are still honest and open as they proclaim, if so can i speak my mind with out being told not to, posts deleted, or threads locked. Until otherwise ill say what i like, as as far as I'm concerned it falls with in the rules, unless there is a rule saying you must only post if you agree with plusnet all of the time .

Re: Posting in English Language only please

James — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:37:00 GMT

PlusNet Staff will not moderate any of your posts. The only Moderation will be done by our Moderators themselves.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:38:35 GMT

Yea dont i know it

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Chris — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:41:39 GMT

Hi Dusty,
I can see that your posts are your opinion, mine are my opinion and my interpretation of the forum rules. If someone wants to post in any non-English language anywhere in the forums this will be dealt with in the same way. We only have a Polish forum because we have Polish staff and set up a website to cater for Polish people, it is only in there that it's acceptable to post in Polish.
As James_H says, everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Big_Fred — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:42:14 GMT

Quote from: Dusty

Can someone please tell me if plusnet are still honest and open as they proclaim, if so can i speak my mind with out being told not to, posts deleted, or threads locked. Until otherwise ill say what i like, as as far as I'm concerned it falls with in the rules, unless there is a rule saying you must only post if you agree with plusnet all of the time .

It could easily be that anyone (or more) of the many 1000’s of PluNet users that read these/your messages on this forum might have reported you to a moderator. In which case the moderator has a duty to look into any reports.
BF.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:56:02 GMT

That was not the case tho. No one reported me, because the moderator told me why and admitted i broke no rules.
Anyways I'm still harbouring resentment about it because my complaints have falling on death ears via PM and tbh when i come back from holiday. I will more than likely move on . This time if i request my mac code ill mean it and no phone calls to persuade me to stay will help.
Ill see how i feel in two weeks time when i get back.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

James — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:57:18 GMT

You're going to migrate out because you don't agree with our having a Polish Forum?
That's a bit extreme.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Dusty — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:03:27 GMT

No don't be silly
Because when i don't agree with something, my thread gets locked and posts get deleted and no one will listen. Or I'm fed words and nothing else.
We all have opinions, I'm only voicing mine about the polish forum. Nothing more nothing less, but when a moderator locks threads because its an opinion he does not share then to me that's a an abuse of moderating power and when i see it not acted on , i take it as agreement.

Re: Posting in English Language only please

Spider — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:15:45 GMT

I have to say the more I read the posts the more I agree with Dusty on this one.
[quote=Forum Rules]Forum Language
The official language to be used with all postings on these forums is English. Except in the dedicated Polish language forum.
When you look at the main forum page under 'Service Discussion'' you find one sub forum in a Foreign Language is this the Polish Language Forum? The reason I ask is there is no where in English that says it is. Also my understanding is that this section also as separate moderators to the main forum and that they are staff members.
[quote=Forum Rules]The forums are moderated by customers, namely John (John_Essex), Roger (rogerloxton), James (James_H), Daniel (assos) Bill (billbo) and Jonathan (chillypenguin).
If this is the case then not only is the language the exception but also the moderators.
If PlusNet are going to continue down this route then I feel that it is more appropriate that there is a more clearly defined Polish section with separate rules. The Welsh / English publications are a good example how to combine two languages to get the same information.