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    <title>topic Re: Ping pingpong during evening in Broadband</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952155#M362847</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;When nobody is using your internet connection, on a wired Ethernet connected computer, run this test - &lt;A href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat" target="_self"&gt;https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat&lt;/A&gt; , and take a screenshot of the result and post it here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For gaming use, your "&lt;STRONG&gt;Bufferbloat Grade&lt;/STRONG&gt;" should be "&lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt;" or "&lt;STRONG&gt;A+&lt;/STRONG&gt;",&amp;nbsp; as shown below -&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2024-01-08 at 16-08-01 Bufferbloat and Internet Speed Test - Waveform.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.plus.net/skins/images/E5FCC0B5A17F943893106B03C5EED8ED/responsive_peak/images/image_not_found.png" alt="Screenshot 2024-01-08 at 16-08-01 Bufferbloat and Internet Speed Test - Waveform.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If your &lt;STRONG&gt;Upload Speed&lt;/STRONG&gt; is less than &lt;STRONG&gt;0.8Mbps&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then there's not much you can do other than optimise your phone socket wiring to improve the &lt;STRONG&gt;upload&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;speed&lt;/STRONG&gt;, or upgrade your broadband connection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Assuming your &lt;STRONG&gt;Upload Speed&lt;/STRONG&gt; is more than 0.8Mbps, AND your "&lt;STRONG&gt;Bufferbloat Grade&lt;/STRONG&gt;" is worse than "&lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt;", then read the "&lt;A href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat" target="_self"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Frequently Asked Questions&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/A&gt;" to understand why you have a ping problem, and follow the advice on buying a new router that has "&lt;A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service" target="_self"&gt;QoS&lt;/A&gt;", "&lt;A href="https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Smart_Queue_Management/" target="_self"&gt;SQM&lt;/A&gt;", "&lt;A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoDel" target="_self"&gt;fq_codel&lt;/A&gt;", or "&lt;A href="https://lwn.net/Articles/758353/" target="_self"&gt;CAKE&lt;/A&gt;" traffic management.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you are using a Plusnet router, none of them support any kind of traffic management to eliminate ping issues due to bufferbloat.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:56:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-01-08T16:56:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Ping pingpong during evening</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952057#M362846</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just before new years I started experiencing jumps in ping, most notably during the afternoon and certainly in the evening.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried with a new router but ended up sending it back as I thought it would improve it, but actually seemed worse&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;any advice?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Im currently wired in on the computer, and in the evening my ipad also has weird ping readings&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;ive attached a ping reading in one of the games i play&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2024 20:25:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952057#M362846</guid>
      <dc:creator>amandapotter64</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-07T20:25:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Ping pingpong during evening</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952155#M362847</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When nobody is using your internet connection, on a wired Ethernet connected computer, run this test - &lt;A href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat" target="_self"&gt;https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat&lt;/A&gt; , and take a screenshot of the result and post it here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For gaming use, your "&lt;STRONG&gt;Bufferbloat Grade&lt;/STRONG&gt;" should be "&lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt;" or "&lt;STRONG&gt;A+&lt;/STRONG&gt;",&amp;nbsp; as shown below -&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2024-01-08 at 16-08-01 Bufferbloat and Internet Speed Test - Waveform.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.plus.net/skins/images/E5FCC0B5A17F943893106B03C5EED8ED/responsive_peak/images/image_not_found.png" alt="Screenshot 2024-01-08 at 16-08-01 Bufferbloat and Internet Speed Test - Waveform.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If your &lt;STRONG&gt;Upload Speed&lt;/STRONG&gt; is less than &lt;STRONG&gt;0.8Mbps&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then there's not much you can do other than optimise your phone socket wiring to improve the &lt;STRONG&gt;upload&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;speed&lt;/STRONG&gt;, or upgrade your broadband connection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Assuming your &lt;STRONG&gt;Upload Speed&lt;/STRONG&gt; is more than 0.8Mbps, AND your "&lt;STRONG&gt;Bufferbloat Grade&lt;/STRONG&gt;" is worse than "&lt;STRONG&gt;A&lt;/STRONG&gt;", then read the "&lt;A href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat" target="_self"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Frequently Asked Questions&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/A&gt;" to understand why you have a ping problem, and follow the advice on buying a new router that has "&lt;A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service" target="_self"&gt;QoS&lt;/A&gt;", "&lt;A href="https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Smart_Queue_Management/" target="_self"&gt;SQM&lt;/A&gt;", "&lt;A href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoDel" target="_self"&gt;fq_codel&lt;/A&gt;", or "&lt;A href="https://lwn.net/Articles/758353/" target="_self"&gt;CAKE&lt;/A&gt;" traffic management.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you are using a Plusnet router, none of them support any kind of traffic management to eliminate ping issues due to bufferbloat.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:56:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952155#M362847</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-08T16:56:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Ping pingpong during evening</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952181#M362850</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've just run that test on my 300Mb fibre connection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The results are unsurprising. Load a WAN link to capacity and stuff has trouble getting in and/or out.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;N.B. Hub 2. Therefore no traffic management within the entire local LAN. Although segments (two segments, via switches) do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;N.N.B There was a VoIp telephone connected, but that is a proverbial urinary stream in a vast body of water.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Test provided for comparison purposes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=952275a5-7b2a-43bb-a71f-001e0a5e14f7" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=952275a5-7b2a-43bb-a71f-001e0a5e14f7&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 21:22:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Broadband/Ping-pingpong-during-evening/m-p/1952181#M362850</guid>
      <dc:creator>greygit1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-08T21:22:10Z</dc:date>
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