topic Re: Increase upload speed in Broadband

Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 01:33:52 GMT

I'm working from home and need to upload frequently, but I'm stuck with ADSL 1Mbps upload speed, as fibre is not available in my building. Is it possible to have the upload speed increased? Download speed is 15Mbps, thanks.

Re: Increase upload speed

MisterW — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:52:00 GMT

Im afraid not, your upload is close to the max on adsl

Re: Increase upload speed

Baldrick1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 08:56:14 GMT

@JohnPhil

Have you considererd using mobile data? It might be faster and cheaper than you have assumed.

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:09:38 GMT

Yes but I live in the city centre, the antennas here are really congested, as I only get decent upload speeds between 22:00 and 07:00 (usually 0.5Mbps to 1.5MBps throughout the day and then 2Mbps to 5Mbps overnight), and daytime download speed is about half my ADSL (8Mbps against 15Mbps, overnight is much better but varies a lot). Also, I can't share the connection with the company's desktop computer, as I'm not allowed to attach any devices to it and it's got no wireless capability.

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:13:50 GMT

Out of curiosity, which city?

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:14:56 GMT

Bristol

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:17:14 GMT

What does https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL give for your available services?

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:30:35 GMT

ADSL Products	Downstream Line Rate (Mbps)	Upstream Line Rate (Mbps)	Downstream Range(Mbps)	ADSL Availability Date	Left in Jumper
WBC ADSL 2+	Up to 6.5	--	5.5 to 7.5	Available	--
WBC ADSL2+ Annex M	Up to 6.5	Up to 1	5.5 to 7.5	Available	--
ADSL Max	Up to 5.5	--	4 to 8	Available	--
WBC Fixed Rate	2	--	--	Available	--
Fixed Rate	2	--	--	Available	--

SOADSL Products	Downstream Line Rate (Mbps)	Upstream Line Rate (Mbps)	Downstream Range(Mbps)	WBC SOADSL Availability Date	Left in Jumper
WBC SOADSL 2+	Up to 6.5	--	5.5 to 7.5	--	--
SOADSL Max	Up to 5.5	--	5.5 to 7.5	--	--
SOADSL Fixed Rate	Up to 2	--	4 to 8	--	--

Observed Speeds	ADSL
Max Observed Downstream Speed	16.99
Max Observed Upstream Speed	0.93
Observed Date	2023-02-05

Other Offerings	Availability Date
ADSL Multicast	Available

Premise Environment	Status
Bridge Tap	U
VRI	N
NTE FacePlate	N
Last Test Date	31-01-2023

Exchange Product Restrictions	Status
FTTP Priority Exchange	N
WLR Withdrawal	N
SOADSL Restriction	Y

FTTP is not available.

The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme

WLR is currently available at the exchange

SOADSL is restricted at the exchange

For all ADSL and WBC Fibre to the Cabinet (VDSL or G.fast) services, the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.

For all SOADSL services,the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:51:16 GMT

Thanks for that. Which exchange is it ?

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:38:36 GMT

REDCLIFFE

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:54:53 GMT

Thanks. Looks like your street cabinet is not FTTC enabled, which is strange, but you are currently due to get Full Fibre in the next year, so they are unlikely to enable it anyway.

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:48:19 GMT

They said that a couple of years ago, but I guess the pandemic delayed them considerably. also I'm a little over 1km away from the exchange, which would theoretically give 17Mbps/5Mbps. It would mostly solve the upload issues, but at a possibly higher monthly cost where I wouldn't benefit from improved download speed. I'm currently not able to stream 4K, for instance.

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:58:38 GMT

the information I posted was based on the current build programme, which is progressing well in most areas, You cannot get above 1Mbps on an ADSL line, the physics just doesn't allow it. Where did you get that information from, as looks like a FTTC 'projection, and is irrelevant as they will not enable your cab this close to Full Fibre installation.

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:03:55 GMT

That's not ADSL.

What speed can I expect from fibre broadband? (FTTC/VDSL2)

The speed of your connection will vary depending on the distance to the fibre cabinet that serves your house. If you know roughly how far the cabinet is, you should be able to calculate the speed you should receive based on the figures in the table below:

Distance to cabinet (metres)	Estimated downstream connection speed	Estimated upstream connection speed	Cumulative %'age of premises at this distance
100m	100 Mbps	25 Mbps	5%
150m	80 Mbps	20 Mbps	10%
200m	65 Mbps	18 Mbps	20%
300m	45 Mbps	17 Mbps	30%
400m	42 Mbps	16 Mbps	45%
500m	38 Mbps	15 Mbps	60%
600m	35 Mbps	14 Mbps	70%
700m	32 Mbps	11 Mbps	75%
800m	28 Mbps	10 Mbps	80%
900m	25 Mbps	9 Mbps	85%
1000m	24 Mbps	8 Mbps	90%
1250m	17 Mbps	5 Mbps	95%
1500m	15 Mbps	4 Mbps	98%

VDSL2 Profile 17a, cabinet to premises speed estimate

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/guides/fibre-fttc-ftth-broadband-guide

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:07:34 GMT

I said it looked like an FTTC projection, and distance from exchange is irrelevant in that scenario - it is distance from your street cab which counts.

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:13:02 GMT

Do they need to install new copper between the street cab and the living room socket?

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:18:38 GMT

No, they need to install a Fibre cabinet next to your current street cab - which they won't - and then connect the fibre cab to the copper one. FTTC means Fibre To The Cabinet, the 'last mile', or more precisely the connection from said cab to your property is then the only copper, and does not change.

Re: Increase upload speed

JohnPhil — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:25:35 GMT

Why aren't they going to install a new fibre cab next to the existing one?

Re: Increase upload speed

jab1 — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:27:56 GMT

Probably because it is an expensive undertaking, and if Full Fibre is to be installed in the near future, not a cost-effective venture.

Re: Increase upload speed

pvmb — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 20:07:52 GMT

@JohnPhil wrote:

That's not ADSL.

Yes it is! The OP said so.