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    <title>topic Re: Outage 10/09/2015 in Community Announcements</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1268015#M8101</link>
    <description>I woke this morning to discover that I could not access a critical website, on four PCs. &amp;nbsp;I sought to verify that it was not down, and got several people, throughout the UK, who could all access it. &amp;nbsp;The problem 'clearly' lay with me... somehow.&lt;BR /&gt;I reset my router. &amp;nbsp;Checked firewalls, reset browsers, installed two other browsers. &amp;nbsp;After several hours of wasted effort, I discovered this was probably a PlusNet issue. &amp;nbsp;This brings me to the point of whether it would be useful, to know what was the issue. &amp;nbsp;Just because my problem coincided with that of PlusNet, how do I know that it resolving its issues, would necessarily solve mine? &amp;nbsp;I could not afford to waste hours - sitting in that 'waiting room' - to discover that the doctor was only ever preparing to give me a flu injection, when I was there with a crippling back injury!&amp;nbsp; I needed to know what the problem was, whilst it was happening.&amp;nbsp; After the event - and it is still not over for me, since I still cannot get that website through PlusNet - I do not care anywhere near as much as during it.&lt;BR /&gt;If you go 'NHS', perhaps you are prepared to put up with all this rubbish; but I'm afraid I expect something better, when I'm paying for it.&lt;BR /&gt;If it had communicated, honestly, that it had an issue and what it was, then I could have got on with other things; as I completely accept problems happen. &amp;nbsp;To hijack the NHS analogy, this was like sitting in a waiting room, unaware the doctor had been informed. &amp;nbsp;Moreover, unaware a doctor was necessary; and spending several hours walking around the hospital, searching for nurses, admin staff, parking attendants and cleaners, asking if anyone knew why I had been delivered here!!&lt;BR /&gt;One final point... when most people can't get the internet, or, more confusingly, one particular website, do they just sit around for hours, hoping it will all be sorted out by someone 'out there'? &amp;nbsp;That's fine, if you know someone is dealing with it... when you know that they will resolve your issue. &amp;nbsp;In that case, one can take it easy, chill out and let them get on. &amp;nbsp;However, this is only made possible, by distributing information.&lt;BR /&gt;Clearly, some of these posts are made with not a thought for other people's situations, only their own lack of urgency; not to mention mindboggling apathy.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:00:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Antchexec</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-09-10T21:00:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267948#M8034</link>
      <description>We are in the process of investigating this now. I will provide an update on this thread, and our Twitter pages as soon as I receive more information. &lt;BR /&gt;Our systems where we provide the service status are also unfortunately down, but I will endeavour to get one up as soon as I have the facility to. &lt;BR /&gt;Really sorry for the inconvenience caused. &lt;BR /&gt;Matty</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:00:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267948#M8034</guid>
      <dc:creator>MattyC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:00:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267949#M8035</link>
      <description>Thanks for your continued patience guys.&lt;BR /&gt;Customers who can't get online should try a reboot as we're seeing customer come back online now.&lt;BR /&gt;We're still investigating the other issues.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:17:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267949#M8035</guid>
      <dc:creator>MatthewWheeler</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:17:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267950#M8036</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: MattyC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;We are in the process of investigating this now. I will provide on this thread, and our Twitter pages as soon as I receive more information. &lt;BR /&gt;Our systems where we provide the service status are also unfortunately down, but I will endeavour to get one up as soon as I have the facility to. &lt;BR /&gt;Really sorry for the inconvenience caused. &lt;BR /&gt;Matty&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; This is no excuse really since the removal of the 24/7 for residential customers and only business customers get the full on golden ticket!&lt;BR /&gt;Your call times have not improved as promised even after removing the ability to report a problem after 10pm poor excuse by PlusNet started out a good service but those standards are dropping and I can see those so called awards not being so called awarded to PN.&lt;BR /&gt;You need a system or management implementation for fault reports after 10pm!&lt;BR /&gt;Excuse no more.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:19:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267950#M8036</guid>
      <dc:creator>vendetta</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:19:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267951#M8037</link>
      <description>A router restart got me back on.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:24:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267951#M8037</guid>
      <dc:creator>KevinG</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:24:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267952#M8038</link>
      <description>I've just managed to get a service status up online. &lt;BR /&gt;Our engineers are still working on the case. &lt;BR /&gt;Matty</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:28:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267952#M8038</guid>
      <dc:creator>MattyC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:28:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267953#M8039</link>
      <description>I had a similar problem at about 7am on 7 September and did a router restart that has fixed it. May I humbly suggest that you had this problem before but perhaps on a smaller scale that didn't warranty shouting from the rooftops. &lt;BR /&gt;Somehow, being a spoon whittler looks like a much better proposition than being with Plusnet at the moment.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:31:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267953#M8039</guid>
      <dc:creator>alext05</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:31:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267954#M8040</link>
      <description>I'm back now but not being able to access the internet since 06.00 hours has cost me a small fortune. Well done PN, thanks for nothing!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:31:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267954#M8040</guid>
      <dc:creator>tijara33</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:31:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267955#M8041</link>
      <description>Member Center ,, Still DOWN &amp;nbsp;!!! &amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@39CAA4D3C5337609D22BCCF670FC8D42/images/emoticons/embarrassed.gif" alt="Embarrassed" title="Embarrassed" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The server at portal.plus.net is taking too long to respond.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:41:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267955#M8041</guid>
      <dc:creator>rongtw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:41:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267956#M8042</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: MattyC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;I've just managed to get a service status up online. &lt;BR /&gt;Our engineers are still working on the case. &lt;BR /&gt;Matty&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;While I can access the forums, I cannot access the main site, or the member centre, or the support site. I can't get to the service status!&lt;BR /&gt;I can't even get there through an EE wireless 4G dongle.&lt;BR /&gt;Maybe updates on here would be a good idea too.&lt;BR /&gt;And BTW Matty ... the link in your .sig points to the usertools service status archive. That hasn't got a copy of the update either!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:51:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267956#M8042</guid>
      <dc:creator>WWWombat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:51:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267957#M8043</link>
      <description>There's an update on Twitter...that is the only place that has an update as far as I can tell....main website is down so can't check on there...the user tools/RSS Feeds have nothing and the same goes for Facebook. Luckily I am having no issues currently and haven't for over an hour so I am not bothered about servce updates</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:56:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267957#M8043</guid>
      <dc:creator>nursemorph</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T08:56:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267958#M8044</link>
      <description>I'm back up and running but we need to know what caused the problem and why PN seemed so slow in dealing with it.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:02:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267958#M8044</guid>
      <dc:creator>artmo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:02:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267959#M8045</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: MattyC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;I've just managed to get a service status up online. &lt;BR /&gt;Our engineers are still working on the case. &lt;BR /&gt;Matty&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Matty, we can't read this - as &lt;A href="https://community.plus.net/www.plus.net" target="_blank"&gt;www.plus.net&lt;/A&gt; main site is completely off air now!&lt;BR /&gt;What worries me, is:&lt;BR /&gt;1. Your users (not engineers) were the first people to spot the problem - and report in the forums from about 01:00.&lt;BR /&gt;2. Nobody from Plusnet seems to have been monitoring either the service or the customer reports - until you spotted them when you came to work.&lt;BR /&gt;It is therefore bizarre, that you are running a major consumer and business ISP with apparently no appropriate internal or external alerting of a major DNS issue.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:08:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267959#M8045</guid>
      <dc:creator>creamola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:08:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267960#M8046</link>
      <description>Can you confirm that all your customer data is safe as its looking very concerning the way you've handled this outage so far. The face that many parts of the service at still down several hours after the initial failure also indicates there is more to this.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:11:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267960#M8046</guid>
      <dc:creator>KevinA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:11:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267961#M8047</link>
      <description>Touch wood, I was not affected. &amp;nbsp;This is interesting though: &lt;A href="http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7156-problems-over-at-plusnet.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7156-problems-over-at-plusnet.html&lt;/A&gt; and here: &lt;A href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/major_plusnet_outage_dns_goes_titsup/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/major_plusnet_outage_dns_goes_titsup/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I don't use pn DNS so I don't know if this is why I was not affected.&lt;BR /&gt;Rick.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:14:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267961#M8047</guid>
      <dc:creator>ricke17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:14:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267962#M8048</link>
      <description>This better not fuck up my migration Plusnet.... it should of started today (10th day since order)&amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3681646702FDFD32BCA97E2E5F1BDDD5/images/emoticons/huh.gif" alt="Huh" title="Huh" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:16:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267962#M8048</guid>
      <dc:creator>mlmclaren</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:16:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267963#M8049</link>
      <description>Everything's cleared up for me now, can access all websites and not slow.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:25:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267963#M8049</guid>
      <dc:creator>garethok</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:25:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267964#M8050</link>
      <description>Just rang the PN service status line ( 10:28am), as usually no one has bothered to put the issue on there , why?&lt;BR /&gt;What a great feature especially , when you can not get a service status up on the website. Yet PN choose not to use out , or promote the number to customers . 0800 9176714&lt;BR /&gt;This has been brought up numerous yet PN do nothing &lt;BR /&gt;Kind regards&lt;BR /&gt;Mike</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:29:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267964#M8050</guid>
      <dc:creator>ITWorks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:29:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267965#M8051</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: tijara33&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;I'm back now but not being able to access the internet since 06.00 hours has cost me a small fortune. Well done PN, thanks for nothing!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If the internet is so critical to your income you would have failed over to your backup provider no?&amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3681646702FDFD32BCA97E2E5F1BDDD5/images/emoticons/huh.gif" alt="Huh" title="Huh" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm afraid I'll never understand why if it's that important people don't have 2 connections with different providers as a minimum level of redudency&amp;nbsp;  &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3681646702FDFD32BCA97E2E5F1BDDD5/images/emoticons/huh.gif" alt="Huh" title="Huh" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@0D61218B4C14ADFBC10BECD1C628E66A/images/emoticons/undecided.gif" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:42:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267965#M8051</guid>
      <dc:creator>dragon2611</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:42:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267966#M8052</link>
      <description>Uk sites (and a few others), wasn't working first thing.&amp;nbsp; Seemed to come back to normal after 9 this morning.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:46:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267966#M8052</guid>
      <dc:creator>Timalay</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:46:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Outage 10/09/2015</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267967#M8053</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Just rang the PN service status line ( 10:28am), as usually no one has bothered to put the issue on there , why?&lt;BR /&gt;What a great feature especially , when you can not get a service status up on the website. Yet PN choose not to use out , or promote the number to customers . 0800 9176714&lt;BR /&gt;This has been brought up numerous yet PN do nothing &lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Yes I keep telling PN about this issue whenever I report a problem with their servers etc - that they MUST be a LOT more pro-active with updating their Service Status page with precise details of faults, as soon as they are reported and identified as being a genuine problem rather than user error.&lt;BR /&gt;In the past when I've mentioned this, they come out with lame excuses like "we'll change the status when we've identified what the problem is", which is far too late. Users want to know "Is everyone having a problem, or is it just me", even though the cause of the problem hasn't yet been identified and a fix isn't yet being worked on.&lt;BR /&gt;I get plenty of status emails most days about local broadband outages and intermittent loss of access to PN's web servers (I signe up to their email alerts) but when something really big happens, there's no email and nothing on service status.&lt;BR /&gt;These days, it's hardly worth checking Service Status because it almost certainly won't list faults which I know exist. This Community forum is probably a better place to look. Makes me wonder why they have the Service Status on the Portal.&lt;BR /&gt;OK, I know that today's problem has affected the Portal as well, so you can't even access Service Status any more, but when I first noticed the problem at about 08:15 and was trying rebooting router, changing to a different router etc, Service Status *was* accessible and listed no faults, even though by then Bob Pullen had responded to one of the threads on this forum to say that the fault had already been logged on an internal PN system. The fact that it was logged internally should have set in motion a process for announcing the problem on &lt;B&gt;all&lt;/B&gt; the standard places that customers will look when there is a problem.&lt;BR /&gt;Everyone has problems and service outages from time to time, and I'm sure the technical guys are working hard to fix them However PN need to make dramatic improvements to how they keep customers informed of progress and any workarounds (eg the 8.8.8.8 DNS server fix).</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:49:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Outage-10-09-2015/m-p/1267967#M8053</guid>
      <dc:creator>martinu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-10T09:49:26Z</dc:date>
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