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    <title>topic Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's in Community Announcements</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118960#M6565</link>
    <description>Undoubtedly I'm not the only one who is absolutely sick and tired of all these way above inflation rises that we've been seeing in the last couple of years. BT Retail stuff up the price and the big Cartel follows suit. Competition not. Especially as Wholesale prices haven't risen like this.&lt;BR /&gt;Modern technology has had the effect of reducing the cost of all the Hi-tech we use these days (especially once in volume production) and costs associated with it's use.&lt;BR /&gt;So I see no justification whatsoever for the increase in UK call charges, especially that abomination of the connection/setup fee which so many people don't realise they get charged (along with the first minute) when they call an engaged line which has 1571 - it goes straight to answer service. It's even more ridiculous since there are now so many mobile deals that are cheaper than a lot of LL services. The best place to start and look at most of the possible options and good deals is the &lt;A href="http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/?tab=sect13" target="_blank"&gt;mse&lt;/A&gt; website.&lt;BR /&gt;The "problem" with line rental is of course the cost of "maintaining" the "copper" network!!&lt;BR /&gt;Now why all the "" you may be wondering. Let's deal with that in reverse order -&lt;BR /&gt;"copper" network? Many moons ago, generally the greater problem with a lot of phone lines with high attenuation and when they went noisy was the deterioration in crimped joints. Since the invention of silicon jelly filled crimps and the gradual replacement of most crimps with these, most issues now come down to the quality of the cable. There is a lot of aluminium cable out there which tends to deteriorate at a faster rate than even older copper. Is it being replaced at a fast enough rate - NO.&lt;BR /&gt;This is where the "maintaining" issue comes in. These days, most of us have broadband. When we have problems with it, a lot are reporting broadband faults when in fact it's often the phone line to blame. There's a surprising number of people who don't report phone line problems when they have a crackly line - even when sometimes it almost drowns out the conversation!&lt;BR /&gt;What do BTw &amp;amp; OR do when such BB faults are reported.- Most times, a "tech" (I refuse to call them engineers in most instances) sits there with a lappy on your line for upto 2 hours trying to reproduce the BB issue - and most times if the Target SNRM hasn't already automatically been raised (or the speed Banded (capped))- they do it manually - ah, there we are, the line is stable now&lt;BR /&gt;Most times, do they make any serious effort to check for poor joints and replace the crimps (even jelly filled crimps don't always give perfect joints especially if hurriedly done or are constantly disturbed in a Cab) or test to see of there are any sections of your cable pair that have significantly deteriorated - NO!&lt;BR /&gt;Often only when a fault is pursued to a 2nd, 3rd or more, engineer visit. might they look to see if there is a better "spare" pair in the cable. What happens if there is not a better spare, or no spare at all. Well you got service haven't you? You might think that they'd replace the cable, especially if it were aluminium. NO! Only if it's got to the point that several customers have virtually no service (or someone has none) do they maybe start thinking about replacing the cable.&lt;BR /&gt;And this is where the "problem" arises. The actual cost of all the to-ing and fro-ing between the Service provider, BTwholesale and OpenReach and all the BS given multiple times by OR &amp;amp; BTw, usually exceeds the cost of checking/repairing/replacing joints or the cable at the outset, especially when several end-users have been having problems (often over various providers). &lt;BR /&gt;In most cases the Service Provider has to pay BTw/OR for those subsequent "engineer" visits to attempt to resolve ongong problems, and they of course want to try and recover those costs through income. This will no doubt be the "justification" for the increase.&lt;BR /&gt;Well, I am now certainly going to look at all the options for my phone service.&lt;BR /&gt;As Reed has mentioned "Unless Ofcom intervenes then we are all in the grip of the current fashion."&lt;BR /&gt;And OFCOM will NOT intervene until many more people complain to them about these increases - by all providers - (and the way OpenReach and BTw operate).&lt;BR /&gt;@theoddbot&lt;BR /&gt;You should NEVER "cancel" your phone service (unless going to cable) otherwise you will lose your broadband service, get charged a cessation fee and probably have to pay to get the broadband reconnected! ALWAYS migrate any service.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:37:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anotherone</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-07-15T11:37:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118938#M6543</link>
      <description>Hi all,&lt;BR /&gt;Over the coming weeks most of you are likely to receive an email about some changes we'll be making to our phone pricing that will come into effect on 23rd September 2014.&lt;BR /&gt;125,000 emails will be sent each week over the next four weeks with the last emails being sent on 8 August 2014. &lt;BR /&gt;If you currently pay £14.50 for your Line Rental please see the below FAQ:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://community.plus.net/plusnet-residential-homephone-1595-faq-sept-2014/"&gt;http://community.plus.net/plusnet-residential-homephone-1595-faq-sept-2014/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you currently pay £14.99 for your Line Rental please see the below FAQ:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://community.plus.net/plusnet-residential-homephone-1599-faq-sept-2014/"&gt;http://community.plus.net/plusnet-residential-homephone-1599-faq-sept-2014/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you have any questions about the email you've received then feel free to ask them in this thread and we'll do our best to help.&lt;BR /&gt;Before you do though ...&lt;BR /&gt;1. Please search for an answer to your question before posting - it's likely that it has already been answered in a preceding post.&lt;BR /&gt;2. If you haven't yet received an email then please be patient and try to refrain from posting until you have. The emails are tailored to each specific customer's circumstances and should answer the majority of your questions.&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:07:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118938#M6543</guid>
      <dc:creator>LinnPlusnet</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:07:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118939#M6544</link>
      <description>The price rises will go down like a lead balloon, particularly as the wholesale costs were recently reduced.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:14:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118939#M6544</guid>
      <dc:creator>AndyH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:14:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118940#M6545</link>
      <description>So, I think, these changes mean that customers who joined Plusnet (phone) prior to 10th June 2014 will then pay the same prices as those who joined after 10th June?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118940#M6545</guid>
      <dc:creator>ReedRichards</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:22:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118941#M6546</link>
      <description>Yes we are all in the same very expensive boat and the new line rental is the same as TalkTalk</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:27:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118941#M6546</guid>
      <dc:creator>Oldjim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:27:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118942#M6547</link>
      <description>And the same as BT (although I'm sure that is purely coincidental).</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:35:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118942#M6547</guid>
      <dc:creator>ReedRichards</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:35:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118943#M6548</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: Linn&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2. If you haven't yet received an email then please be patient and try to refrain from posting until you have. The emails are tailored to each specific customer's circumstances and should answer the majority of your questions.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm at a loss to understand how the emails can be tailored to each specific customer's circumstance considering line rental will either go up to £15.95 or £15.99 and increase in call plan charges are different. Not rocket science to work out...&lt;BR /&gt;Is their anything else to be expected in each email?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:39:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118943#M6548</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mav</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:39:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118944#M6549</link>
      <description>actually it isn't BT &amp;nbsp;is £15.99 - big deal</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:41:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118944#M6549</guid>
      <dc:creator>Oldjim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:41:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118945#M6550</link>
      <description>What will happen to customers that already have a discounts in place until after September / in my case until December ?&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3681646702FDFD32BCA97E2E5F1BDDD5/images/emoticons/huh.gif" alt="Huh" title="Huh" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:42:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118945#M6550</guid>
      <dc:creator>TORPC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:42:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118946#M6551</link>
      <description>I assume that discount is the broadband bit not the phone bit&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:44:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118946#M6551</guid>
      <dc:creator>Oldjim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:44:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118947#M6552</link>
      <description>My discount doesn't mention whether it's against the broadband or phone but, either way, I just assume the discount is kept but you still have the increase in line rental and call plan charges.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118947#M6552</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mav</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:49:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118948#M6553</link>
      <description>Same here it does not define either or. tbh</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:58:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118948#M6553</guid>
      <dc:creator>TORPC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T16:58:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118949#M6554</link>
      <description>reason for asking is that mine did and the discounted part of the 12 month contract has finished</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:02:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118949#M6554</guid>
      <dc:creator>Oldjim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T17:02:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118950#M6555</link>
      <description>It looks like all the big phone/internet providers are now charging either £15.95 or £15.99 a month except Sky (£15.40, but for how long?). Isn't competition wonderful? It's not all that long ago that this would have been a normal quarterly price.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:52:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118950#M6555</guid>
      <dc:creator>grahamt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T18:52:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118951#M6556</link>
      <description>???and my BT Anytime Line Rental Saver ends 15 August. Back to the abacus to see if the savings are still there. (that's if the mud is relatively clear ::).&lt;BR /&gt;I presume things like mobile rates and CLID remain as now.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:53:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118951#M6556</guid>
      <dc:creator>Luzern</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T18:53:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118952#M6557</link>
      <description>Ok let's get this straight?&lt;BR /&gt;I am paying full price for fibre that doesn't work properly,&amp;nbsp; no discounts for me.&lt;BR /&gt;I have also paid full price for LRS.&amp;nbsp; Again no discount for me.&lt;BR /&gt;I have to pay extra for caller display to.&lt;BR /&gt;I agreed a 24 month contract with PLUSNET at the beginning of the year when I changed to fibre.&lt;BR /&gt;Yet again Plusnet are giving each and every customer the big UP YOURS.&lt;BR /&gt;You demand I sign up to binding contracts at a certain price, you even demand payment of the bill before its even due (as I pay by card and not DD)&lt;BR /&gt;BUT.&amp;nbsp; When it suits Plusnet you ignore everything and put the bill up.&lt;BR /&gt;You laugh in my face in treat me with utter contempt.&lt;BR /&gt;So now it's time I treat PLUSNET with the contempt you deserve.&lt;BR /&gt;I will not pay the extra.&lt;BR /&gt;I will not be treated this way.&lt;BR /&gt;I'm off.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:52:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118952#M6557</guid>
      <dc:creator>Devonian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T19:52:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118953#M6558</link>
      <description>Given that inflation is running at somewhere between 1.5% (CPI) and 2.4% (RPI), and is expected to remain below 2% for the rest of the year and possibly beyond,( see &lt;A href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27884113" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27884113&lt;/A&gt; ) would a member of plusnet staff be able or willing to offer a justification for these price rises, which as far as I can see range from a 6.7% increase (for line rental increase from £14.99 to £15.99 a month), to 13% for the increase in line rental saver from £137.88 to £155.88 a year, and 13.9% for call charges to landlines?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:40:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T20:40:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118954#M6559</link>
      <description>BT&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Line Rental – You can pay for your line rental either by direct debit for £15.99 a month or £47.97 a quarter (Standard Line Rental) or by paying £159.84 by credit/debit card for 12 monthly payments in advance (Line Rental Saver) which is equivalent to £13.32 a month. &lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:19:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Strat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T21:19:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118955#M6560</link>
      <description>Are we now paying more for telephony and broadband than we did 5 or 10 years ago? &amp;nbsp;I don't think so but the telephony charges have gone up and up whilst the broadband charges have gone down. &amp;nbsp;I doubt that this is any reflection of real costs, just companies loading their telephony charges in order to subsidise their broadband. &amp;nbsp;Unless Ofcom intervenes then we are all in the grip of the current fashion.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size:8pt"&gt;&lt;I&gt;Edited to correct spelling erro&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;r &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:27:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118955#M6560</guid>
      <dc:creator>ReedRichards</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T22:27:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118956#M6561</link>
      <description>Although, as pointed out above, the increase in line rental (for me) is in the region of 6.7% and the Anytime plan around11%, there doesn't seem much difference between the major players.&lt;BR /&gt;My personal view (especially after jumping ship over two years ago then returning to the fold less than a year later) I'd rather stay with PN where I feel the service is far superior and the Digital Care Team among the best support you can find.&lt;BR /&gt;Of course, if PN continue to push their prices up above the competition than I may have to rethink.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:41:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Mav</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T22:41:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Autumn Price increase FAQ's</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118957#M6562</link>
      <description>I'll be out of contract by September. Looks like I'll have to make a call to COT.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:55:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Community-Announcements/Autumn-Price-increase-FAQ-s/m-p/1118957#M6562</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveyH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-14T22:55:33Z</dc:date>
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