topic Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght? in Community Announcements

iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

bobpullen — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:03:01 GMT

Evening folks,
Most who haven't had their head in the sand recently will know that Apple have got something up their sleeves for today that's strongly rumoured to be the announcement of the iPhone 5 and an event is about to kick-off that will shed some light on the myriad of rumours that have been circulating over recent weeks/months (Macworld are doing live updates here).
Other rumours include the launch of a new music streaming service, updates to Apple's iTunes and some news on a lower-end/smaller iPad. It could also mark the availability of iOS6. This is what this post is about really. When iOS5 was launched it caused some fairly heavy traffic on the network as can be seen in Matt's blog post here. If iOS6 is made available tonight then we could see a repeat performance.
To prepare for this we've made a number of network configuration changes to prepare us for the worst. We've brought forward the next bandwidth flex, applied some precautionary global rate limits and adjusted our bandwidth schedulers to help mitigate the impact any potential update could have on the rest of your traffic. We've also separated/ring-fenced some iTunes/Apple traffic from our 'Gold' traffic queues where most of your web browsing/streaming etc. sits.
That's the purpose of this post really. To ask you guys to keep an eye on things tonight and provide feedback if you notice any performance problems. If iOS6 is released, we'd also be keen to hear about your experiences downloading it on your Plusnet connection.
Thanks.

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Kelly — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:11:48 GMT

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To ask you guys to keep an eye on things tonight and provide feedback if you notice any performance problems. If iOS6 is released, we'd also be keen to hear about your experiences downloading it on your Plusnet connection.

This is the key bit really. We've made some changes which we think are the right way for the network to be set up. I.e. you get access to download this stuff, but without causing your voip/gaming/streaming of tv etc to be impacted. With iOS5, I don't believe we really had it right, so this time we are hoping you don't notice! Let us know....

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:12:02 GMT

Nice post Bob
Here's the latest timescale, Bob & Kelly
iOS 6 rollout on 19 September, for the iPad as well.

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:58:18 GMT

iTunes 10.7 is however available for download right now (157mb)
With support for iOS 6
For Apple iMac anyway.
Which may cause Network slowdowns ?
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

JamesM — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:54:36 GMT

About 15 minutes ago I was playing BF3 and for the first time since the game came out I had a red triangle connection warning and couldn't move. I could shoot but I couldn't hit anything. I guess now I know the reason why.

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we've made a number of network configuration changes

This was great, I joined 2 thirds of the way into a map and ended up with about 38 kills for 8 deaths, and the second map before the connection issues I was mowing down 3 enemies while they were shooting me, I am surprised I wasn't kicked for suspicion of hacking

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Gus — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:11:45 GMT

streams are dire atm, caching ever 1-2mins tvcatchup.com, wire shark shows bronze 0x00
edit: hmm ok now wireshark is showing gold 0x80

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:14:43 GMT

Explained by iTunes downloads tonight ?

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:18:30 GMT

No problems with speed, nor downloads for me tonight

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Oldjim — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:19:07 GMT

Please note - this thread is for problems not for PlusComUK to post loads of pictures about forthcoming Apple updates
I am now trying to decide which ones to split off and to move elsewhere

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Kelly — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:51:36 GMT

Check out the latency on all the graphs:
http://community.plus.net/ping-graphs/
That isn't great 😕
Edit: Or you could all just be downloading itunes....

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

RPMozley — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:39:07 GMT

Well, over the past few days I've seen ping latency during peak time (8-10 around about) increasing for no apparent reason. It's even increasing when no device is using the connection.
Looking over the other graphs there does seem to be some correlation with the peak time increase. Is there something to be worried about for PN?

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

WWWombat — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:28:54 GMT

Quote from: Kelly
Check out the latency on all the graphs:
http://community.plus.net/ping-graphs/

Yup - the same thing is showing on our graph too, for fibre.
And we certainly aren't doing anything on the line - so it's all either within PN or from there out to TBB.

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:01:12 GMT

Perhaps, more relevantly, people all over the country, with various ISP's, were downloading the 400 page Hillsborough Report ?
hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/report/HIP_report.pdf
(But it's only 7.4mb)

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

houlton23 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:19:48 GMT

From here it looks like everything Gold Plated and below on 21CN hit the fan last night, although it looks like you got it right with Gold, as I didn't notice any problems.
Alex

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

w23 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:34:17 GMT

Slightly OT but, I think, relevant (if a somewhat noob-ish question):
What traffic classification are the TBB ping graphs using?

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

bobpullen — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:09:52 GMT

Quote from: w23
What traffic classification are the TBB ping graphs using?

They use ICMP echo requests. ICMP traffic is in the Titanium queues.

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

prichardson — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:25:09 GMT

Quote from: Gus
streams are dire atm, caching ever 1-2mins tvcatchup.com, wire shark shows bronze 0x00
edit: hmm ok now wireshark is showing gold 0x80

Hi Gus,
Do you per chance have a copy of that capture still? We are extremely interested in this.
How long into the stream was that flagged, right at the very start or more than a couple of seconds into the stream.
PlusComUK. You note you didn't have issues, which is always good to hear. However this type of message indicates that some people had better experiences than others.
So for all, we want to hear from you if you had no problems last night as much as those that did have issues.
Thanks

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Gus — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:23:44 GMT

@P Richardson nope forgot to save it when trying another, I had been been caching for about 10 minutes prior to my post and it stopped just before the edit

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

w23 — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:08:22 GMT

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So for all, we want to hear from you if you had no problems last night as much as those that did have issues.

No problems for us; basically myself, wife, son, daughter (everyone except the dog) on the 'net at various times through the evening - no complaints from any family member about game lag, you tube stuttering or facebook loading slow so must have been working OK.

Re: iPhone5, iOS6 and the network tonght?

Gus — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:59:09 GMT

TBB ping graphs not looking good again, I've not been doing much online to warrant the latency from 8.30pm onwards
edit: so 8.30pm too 1030pm ish other than checking this forum I wasn't online, yet my TBB graph is showing what I would expect if gaming or listening to online radio