topic Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced in Community Announcements

New Ofcom Market bands announced

brokenthumb — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:07:37 GMT

Okies, first up, I searched and couldn't find anything relevant, second up, if this is in the wrong place feel free to move it.
Onwards ... .. .
On Dec. 3rd Ofcom published a revised list of markets for broadband.
Here : http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/12/03/ofcom-uk-finalises-new-broadband-isp-market-definitions-and-pricing.html
Also here : http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/wba/wba-statement/
The whole thing is in a PDF file at the bottom of the second link.
Couple of questions.
1) Apparently consultation on the proposed changes will be over by the end of the year, do they by default kick in, unless otherwise notified?
2) Will Plusnet seamlessly adopt the new structure?
I have a vested interest my exchange has moved from 2 to 3

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Strat — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:17:36 GMT

So is mine.
These are moving from Market 1 or Market 2 to Market 3

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CLMOO, CMFIN, CMJAM, CMKER, CMKNO, CMMLD, EACHU, EACOS, EADAN, EADER,
EADOW, EADRA, EAEPP, EAFRN, EAGBD, EAGYT, EAHAE, EAHAW, EAHWH, EAKSG,
EAMIL, EAROC, EASAF, EASBY, EASUD, EASWO, EATHB, EMBIRSS, EMBOURN,
EMBRLAT, EMCHELL, EMHARDI, EMKIMBE, EMKRBYM, EMMKDEE, EMNEWOL,
EMRANND, EMRPLEY, EMRTHLY, EMSHEPS, EMSHIRE, EMSTTEL, EMTOWCE,
EMWARSO, EMYXLEY, ESARB, ESARM, ESBAX, ESBON, ESBUC, ESBYB, ESCAU,
ESCOC, ESDEN, ESFFR, ESGLN, ESGLS, ESGRB, ESGRG, ESIKG, ESKNW, ESLNW,
ESLOA, ESMAI, ESMID, ESQUE, ESSHO, ESTNT, ESWHI, LCAIN, LCAPB, LCBAC,
LCBAR, LCBIR, LCBRN, LCBUS, LCCLE, LCCOC, LCFRE, LCHBK, LCHEY, LCKEN,
LCKHA, LCLON, LCLYT, LCMAR, LCPAD, LCPEN, LCPLB, LCPLE, LCTOD, LCWAL,
LCWHI, LCWIL, LCWOR, LNBGN, LNCUF, LNPFT, LSBKM, LSCOB, LSFARN, LSGRNH,
LSMERS, LSUWAR, LVBIL, LVCUL, LVEAS, LVFRO, LVHEL, LVHOY, LVNOR, LVRAI,
LVUPH, LWRAD, MRARD, MRKNU, MRSAD, MYBNN, MYCAL, MYDUD, MYGOO, MYGUI,
MYHAW, MYHON, MYILK, MYILL, MYKKB, MYKNA, MYMTH, MYRPN, MYSCA, MYSKE,
MYSLA, MYSML, MYSNH, MYSOW, MYSTE, MYTHN, MYWEH, NDACO, NDAGR,
NDAYL, NDBAR, NDBEA, NDBHI, NDCHE, NDCHS, NDCOP, NDHEA, NDHOO, NDHYT,
NDLON, NDMSH, NDNRO, NDPWO, NDSHE, NDSNO, NEBL, NEFH, NEFN, NEHHL,
NEHZ, NEP, NEPH, NERE, NEWAS, NIAM, NIBB, NIBC, NIBRH, NIDLD, NIFWM, NILDW,
NILE, NIMAL, NINY, NSASH, NSBLG, NSDEN, NSELG, NSELL, NSKGW, NSKNC,
NSLNG, NSNTH, NSWES, SDHYLNG, SDLSLNT, SDPCHVN, SDPTRSF, SDSNDWN,
SDSTBBN, SDSTHWC, SDSTHWT, SDSTYNN, SDTTCHF, SLARM, SLASC, SLBCC,
SLBLR, SLBOI, SLBWD, SLCLS, SLCUD, SLCX, SLGL, SLGY, SLHBE, SLHLG, SLHTW,
SLHYG, SLIMM, SLKIV, SLNCU, SLOB, SLPN, SLRY, SLSC, SLTHY, SLTKL, SLWKT,
SLWM, SLWS, SLWTH, SMAP, SMBU, SMBWD, SMCAR, SMCG, SMFK, SMGM, SMHGN,
SMKI, SMKO, SMKT, SMPEN, SMSTF, SMWE, SMWI, SSALM, SSBCL, SSCBD, SSCHN,
SSHWK, SSKEY, SSSHE, SSTHO, SSWIB, SSWOB, STBISHW, STBLNFD, STBURSN,
STDORCH, STHAMBL, STHICLF, STLYTMN, STSTHBN, STVERWD, SWADW, SWAG,
SWAVY, SWBPG, SWCIT, SWCJW, SWCYX, SWDPW, SWEBY, SWFBX, SWGC,
SWGLN, SWLLR, SWMMV, SWMYS, SWNE/CH, SWOAG, SWPDU, SWPEK, SWPND,
SWRDA, SWRDX, SWRWI, SWSKU, SWTEZ, SWTFA, SWTR, SWXNH, SWYYN, SWZKS,
THBW, THCK, THCN, THFC, THIP, THLG, THWP, THWR, WMMFD, WMTRE, WNBUC,
WNCKO, WNDAW, WNFL, WNHAW, WNHR, WNHW, WNM, WNNP, WNPRS, WNRE,
WNRWX, WNSY, WSANN, WSARD, WSAYR, WSBEI, WSBRE, WSBRW, WSBUS,
WSCAB, WSCMN, WSDMS, WSGOU, WSGRE, WSHEL, WSIRS, WSIRV, WSKBN,
WSKIE, WSKIW, WSLAR, WSLES, WSPOS, WSPRE, WSPRO, WSSTE, WSSTN,
WSSTW, WSTRO, WWBRIX, WWCHRS, WWDAWL, WWHAYL, WWILFR, WWNANP,
WWPINH, WWSALT, WWSHIP, WWTEIG, WWTIVE

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Oldjim — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:14:43 GMT

and here is the bad news

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BT Exchanges moving from Market 3 to Market 2
7 Exchanges
CMHILL, MRNEW, MYCSH, SDCWS, SDNWPRT, THTAD, WMMAL

Thread temporarily stickied and moved to Announcement so it doesn't get lost

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Luzern — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:45:33 GMT

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BT Exchanges moving from Market 3 to Market 2

I presume that that will give PN the right to up existing subscribers' prices.
More unhappy posts to come?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

David_W — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:33:29 GMT

I'm moving to Market 3! Shame my product isn't market dependant but if it were, joy!

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Wheel_nut — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:30:07 GMT

Questions for PlusNet agents:
1) Will existing users whose Exchange is changing to Market 3 have their accounts re-priced automatically?
2) And, will existing Discounts remain the same?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Gus — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:04:19 GMT

bah that's a big PDF to trawl through and none the wiser at this time of night after a quick glance as to what is happening to my exchange. The appendix shows NSIMD as Market 2 but its currently Market 1, or is that what its changing to?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

nittygritty — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:21:55 GMT

mines moved from market 1 to market 2, does this mean my price should be cheaper now?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Laser — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:10:44 GMT

Well, well!
IF PlusNet do actually follow this new structure within the next month or two, it might just be the carrot that persuades me to stay and move to a new package. The £6 premium for mkt1&2 make the packages incredibly unattractive. Looks like I'm one of the lucky one that gets a market "improvement".

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

zubel — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:13:22 GMT

I vaguely recall that previous procedure was to offer the cheaper prices to eligible people immediately, and to defer any increase in price until the end of the contract period.
However, with all contracts being 10 days now, I have no idea what the current procedure will be.
B.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Laser — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:42:23 GMT

Any chance of a PlusNet rep making a definitive statement about this (either here or as a blog posting on the community front page)?
The timescale is unclear. The linked page discusses "consultations" by the end of the year, not necessarily implementations, yet Samknows has already changed the market rating of my exchange to the proposed new value.
Some clarity would be welcome. People are sensitive to pricing, as can be seen from the furore in the VAT non-increase thread. This issue could influence many minds.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

mitchell20 — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:15:16 GMT

SamKnows does seem to have already updated the new market banding:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search
My exchange is now finally showing the correct market band, even though it's been market 2 for months now.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Alxns — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:53:15 GMT

When will plusnet put this into effect?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

jojopillo — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:59:56 GMT

HI Guys,
I'm looking into finding out what the plan is for that. I'll post back once I have something.
Jojo

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:59:21 GMT

Having checked the status of the exchange of one of my referrals on Sam Knows HERE I called in to ask if the price of her Plusnet Extra product could be reduced. Alas the system is not showing it as market 3 so nothing can be done at the moment.
How long will it take for it to show the correct banding? Also, will I have to keep calling in to check or will it be automatically adjusted?
Sorry if the questions are the same as above but an answer would be good please.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Mand — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:36:04 GMT

It's worth bearing in mind that these changes haven't been confirmed yet, it's just at consultation stage at the moment.
I can't see us doing anything until it's all confirmed, if that happens.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

jelv — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 00:29:14 GMT

Edit by Jelv: Removed a post relating to how appropriate this topic is in this forum.
I have started a new topic Move of an inappropriate topic to the announcements forum in the Community Site and Forums forum as that is a far more appropriate place to discuss this matter.
My original post is in there quoted in full.

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Oldjim — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:21:54 GMT

Tough
It was my decision and I am sticking with it.
I considered that it would be of great interest to the users who aren't yet on Market 3 (and a very few who are)
The fact that I just moved the thread instead of starting a new one with a quote is, in my opinion, irrelevant.
Regarding the sticky, as I said when I transferred it, that would be temporary and it is now unstickied

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:50:21 GMT

Whatever the status of the topic, I did notice it so am glad that it was posted where it was. Anyway, despite the fact that it is not yet confirmed (despite what the Sam Knows website says), I am still wondering about the answers to the OP's questions:

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1) Apparently consultation on the proposed changes will be over by the end of the year, do they by default kick in, unless otherwise notified?
2) Will Plusnet seamlessly adopt the new structure?

Re: New Ofcom Market bands announced

pjmarsh — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:55:05 GMT

I would be very supprised if these where to just kick in by default when the consultation finishes. I would imagine the results of the consultation will be compiled and discussed by ofcom, and then an announcement of some kind made.
Phil