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    <title>topic Re: Whats next for Dad? in My Account/Billing</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048337#M76536</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;An internet connection is required so have a look at what is available.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There would be a few days downtime on the phone. Note that VOIP doesn't work during power cuts without backup and house extensions won't function without some work.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-06-08T11:10:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048332#M76533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Me old Da' is still on an ADSL account that is OOC. He's now paying £60 pcm. He doesn't even use the internet but at the last nego it was agreed we'd leave it as was to keep the phone line and phone he was used to.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Obviously when that arrangement expired the price went up. I have spoken to PN who say the only option now is to either;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;a) Keep paying the £60 and keep the phone&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;b) Agree to a new tariff and lose the landline&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I know I can port the number over to A&amp;amp;A which is what I will likely do.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;But are there any other options I should know about?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 10:12:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T10:12:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048334#M76534</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 20px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderators Note&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;This topic has been moved from Broadband&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;My Account / Billing&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 10:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dvorak</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T10:37:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048335#M76535</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Is your&amp;nbsp; dad able to get FTTC or FTTP.?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both those options are better - and cheaper.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 10:54:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048335#M76535</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T10:54:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048337#M76536</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;An internet connection is required so have a look at what is available.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There would be a few days downtime on the phone. Note that VOIP doesn't work during power cuts without backup and house extensions won't function without some work.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048337#M76536</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T11:10:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048339#M76537</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/44575"&gt;@bmc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that VOIP doesn't work during power cuts without backup&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Neither do fridges/freezers/TVs&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:15:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048339#M76537</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T11:15:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048342#M76538</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FTTC as a minimum I think. Looking for lowest cost seeing how its literally just so he can use a 'standard phone'&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:40:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048342#M76538</guid>
      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T11:40:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048343#M76539</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;What does&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL&lt;/A&gt; show as available for his phone number? Obscure any personal details if you attach a screenshot.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 11:47:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048343#M76539</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T11:47:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048346#M76540</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I assume both phone line and ADSL are with Plusnet.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As the phone line is the important bit then the primary problem is that Plusnet no longer have a phone line only service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BT have various "phone line replacement" services, some of which act like a "real" phone line.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've recently assisted a relative with this and the outcome was a BT fibre broadband service (with a battery backup unit) and the phones plugged into that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:12:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048346#M76540</guid>
      <dc:creator>markhawkin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:12:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048353#M76541</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Snip 2026-06-08, 13_29_23.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.plus.net/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/62753iCA471863F7AD1BB2/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Snip 2026-06-08, 13_29_23.jpg" alt="Snip 2026-06-08, 13_29_23.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:31:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048353#M76541</guid>
      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:31:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048355#M76542</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've approved the image so others can see it. I assume the phone number has been redacted.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from the availability checker, it would seem that WBC FTTP is available and since the exchange is 'Fibre priority' , then the only option to order is Full fibre (FTTP)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The infrastructure is an O/H feed with no anticipated problems. So its just where to locate the CSP and ONT ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048355#M76542</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:39:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048357#M76544</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;The phone number is NOT redacted, despite my warning, and you are correct.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:40:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048357#M76544</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:40:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048358#M76545</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/18089"&gt;@jab1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;what's there is not a valid phone number , its not got enough digits.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:41:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048358#M76545</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:41:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048359#M76546</link>
      <description>&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If dad is on any benefits have a look at BT&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.bt.com/broadband/home-essentials" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.bt.com/broadband/home-essentials&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:41:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048359#M76546</guid>
      <dc:creator>mystreet1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:41:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048360#M76547</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1110"&gt;@MisterW&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/18089"&gt;@jab1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;what's there is not a valid phone number , its not got enough digits.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Didn't notice that - just saw a phone number.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:43:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048360#M76547</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:43:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048361#M76548</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Specsavers&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face:"&gt;😀&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048361#M76548</guid>
      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T12:52:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048363#M76549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've looked at some other providers who say they can't provide service (yet) FibreOptic being one. Why is this? Not that I particularly want to go with them. In fact just want the cheapest.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That might actually be 5G...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Or a mobile.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:06:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T13:06:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048364#M76550</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Your best choice for phone only may well be using the mobile network - you can get GSM desk phones that look like traditional landline phones so it feels more familiar, and there are some good cheap contracts available with some of the resellers rather than the main networks. You can even divert VoIP to a mobile, so you could even keep the same landline number if that is a concern.&lt;BR /&gt;Other VoIP options usually require a broadband connection - which is an unnecessary cost just to get a phone.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:18:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>corringham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T13:18:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048366#M76552</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4502"&gt;@cpcnw&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have another look at the Checker - what does it say to the right of WBC FTTP (Available, One Stage, KCI2)?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can't find a website for FibreOptic - is it an AltNet which uses a different backbone network and not OpenReach?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It would be well worth a phone call to BT Retail to see what they can offer for your dad. There is a very basic phone only product but I don't know anything about it - even if it's available. As mentioned before, if your dads on any sort of benefits then a social tarriff may be available.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:45:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T13:45:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Whats-next-for-Dad/m-p/2048367#M76553</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I've looked at some other providers who say they can't provide service (yet) FibreOptic being one. Why is this?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its because the fibre infrastructure is Openreach's. So only providers who use Openreach are currently able to provide the service. The 'altnets' need to install their own infrastructure&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T13:48:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Whats next for Dad?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can even divert VoIP to a mobile, so you could even keep the same landline number if that is a concern.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Good idea - thanks!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 15:47:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cpcnw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-06-08T15:47:26Z</dc:date>
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