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    <title>topic Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers in My Account/Billing</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988310#M70935</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;It is not a 'stance by Plusnet' - you will find it with, as I have said, insurance companies/mobile, in fact any company providing a subscription service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:04:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:04:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988306#M70932</link>
      <description>I've been offered a deal to renew my full fibre at 29.99 a month. I see new customers are offered the same for 25.99. Why do plusnet treat long time loyal customers like this?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:47:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988306#M70932</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T07:47:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988307#M70933</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You could always do what I do at renewal time - for broadband/insurance/whatever - and give them a call, you would probably be offered a better deal.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:53:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988307#M70933</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T07:53:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988308#M70934</link>
      <description>Of course, but it needs to be addressed across the board and put on show because many people just accept it and it's wrong.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wonder if a mod or someone else is going to join in with reasons to support this stance by Plusnet.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:59:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988308#M70934</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T07:59:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988310#M70935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is not a 'stance by Plusnet' - you will find it with, as I have said, insurance companies/mobile, in fact any company providing a subscription service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:04:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988310#M70935</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:04:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988311#M70936</link>
      <description>So that makes it ok?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:07:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988311#M70936</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:07:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988313#M70937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I didn't say so, but I am not going to comment further.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:09:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988313#M70937</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:09:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988314#M70938</link>
      <description>Me neither. I'm happy just to leave it here for others to see. It might help towards putting and end to this kind of profiteering.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Just to add a final note. As a loyal customer, if I renew at their offer it costs me £4 a month more than a newbie. That works out at £96 a year more for being loyal. That's gratitude eh?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:15:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988314#M70938</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:15:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988317#M70939</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/39423"&gt;@CoolerKing&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Just to add a final note. As a loyal customer, if I renew at their offer it costs me £4 a month more than a newbie. That works out at £96 a year more for being loyal. That's gratitude eh?&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/39423"&gt;@CoolerKing&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let me see ... I make £4 x 12 (months in a year) = £48&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@104CD63F9302A50EF5EC70FE32BB8AA1/images/emoticons/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Perhaps you meant £96 over a 24 month contract?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:35:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988317#M70939</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobPN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:35:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988318#M70940</link>
      <description>Yeah. £96 for the contract. I'd edit, but I don't want to steal your thunder.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Just to add here. Apart from IDnet who offered free we space in the old dial up days, Plusnet have been a great company to be with for all these years. No complaints on the product in general.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988318#M70940</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:41:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988319#M70941</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately you can't edit after 20 minutes - gotcha!&amp;nbsp;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@104CD63F9302A50EF5EC70FE32BB8AA1/images/emoticons/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:40:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988319#M70941</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobPN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:40:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988321#M70942</link>
      <description>Oh no! How can I live with the shame of not justifying my maths? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😄&lt;/span&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:42:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988321#M70942</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T08:42:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988335#M70943</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/39423"&gt;@CoolerKing&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm afraid the maths are simple. PN (like all other ISP's I supect) have a default price for any given product which, if all goes well, allows them to make a profit.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They build into this a marketing budget which allows lower prices to lure new customers in.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If everyone got the lower price they probably wouldn't make a profit.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:44:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988335#M70943</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T10:44:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988339#M70944</link>
      <description>You're guessing.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:58:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988339#M70944</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T10:58:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988346#M70945</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="background: #EDF3F5; padding: 10px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid #CFD8DC; border-radius: 10px; box-shadow: 8px 8px 7px #676D70; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator's note:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thread moved from Full Fibre to My Account/Billing&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:26:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988346#M70945</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T12:26:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988348#M70946</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As a long standing customer, mine doubled when the contract ended. We deserve better I think.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:30:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988348#M70946</guid>
      <dc:creator>stephenholder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T12:30:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988349#M70947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/134739"&gt;@stephenholder&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sounds like you were / are paying the out of contract price.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:32:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988349#M70947</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T12:32:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988350#M70948</link>
      <description>No. Still in contract.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:35:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988350#M70948</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T12:35:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988351#M70949</link>
      <description>I'm aware when my contract is up. Same each time. This post is about customer loyalty that's  thrown back in our faces.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:37:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988351#M70949</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoolerKing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-19T12:37:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988417#M70950</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Maybe it's different (probably is) for different products. I had just ADSL from PN (over a BT line) and that was out of the initial contract years ago, so no "line rental" factor. The price went up sometimes and actually down sometimes, but certainly never had any massive increases.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think for the last few months it had dropped from about £20 to under £18 a month which actually wasn't bad for the 20mbps I got. Might have had a very small referral discount in those numbers.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:21:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>HPsauce</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-20T09:21:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Renewals for long time loyal customers</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988424#M70951</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/44575"&gt;@bmc&lt;/a&gt; yes, I was out of contract. I was interested in your earlier comment regarding PlusNet having a price point that enables them to turn a profit. Absolutely fair comment, but were you referring to the £29.99 that the OP was complaining about, or the £59.99 that PlusNet charged me for lapsing out of contract?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:21:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Renewals-for-long-time-loyal-customers/m-p/1988424#M70951</guid>
      <dc:creator>stephenholder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-10-20T10:21:48Z</dc:date>
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