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    <title>topic Re: Help a noob…. in My Account/Billing</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927332#M66387</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Neither would I be at that price.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:43:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-30T17:43:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927302#M66382</link>
      <description>I have unlimited fibre extra (no complaints-free line rental etc) I pay £27 ish. Got an offer to upgrade to plusnets “new fibre package” for 24 month contract, no phone line required. For £26.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can someone be so kind as to explain the difference between the two packages? They both quote the same speed. How does the new package work without a phone line? Like how does it connect back to the cabinet?? Surley it’s not full fibre to the premise as I would expect a massive increase in speed for that.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any ideas?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>disgracie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T15:39:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927307#M66383</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Personally, if you still use a landline phone, I would ignore the 'offer'. The connection is exactly as at present, but for the princely discount of £1.00, you won't have a fixed-line phone service.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927307#M66383</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T15:43:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927314#M66384</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/103618"&gt;@disgracie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No landline is a misnomer. There is still a copper line from your property, what is no longer provided is a landline telephone service on that line.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderator’s Note&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;This topic has been moved from General Chat to My Accounts/Billing&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:57:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927314#M66384</guid>
      <dc:creator>Baldrick1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T15:57:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927326#M66385</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/103618"&gt;@disgracie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have a look at the following&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What's in the left hand column - FTTC is VDSL and FTTP is WBC FTTP&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Full fibre requires a new fibre cable to be laid to your property. I assume you're on a 78/20 product. The FTTP equivilant is 74/20. If you so desire you can get 145, 300, 500 and 900 down.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PN do not offer a phone service with FF. If you use a landline or your number is important to you you'd need to set up a VOIP account with a VOIP provider.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Brian&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927326#M66385</guid>
      <dc:creator>bmc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T17:22:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927331#M66386</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/44575"&gt;@bmc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; This is nothing to do with Full Fibre (FTTP). It is Plusnet's fairly new (for them) SOGEA offering, i.e. FTTC with no phone service on the line and a massive saving of £1 a month. I have the same offer in my upgrades tab in the member centre. I will not be snapping it up.&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":frowning_face:"&gt;☹️&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927331#M66386</guid>
      <dc:creator>RealAleMadrid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T17:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help a noob….</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927332#M66387</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Neither would I be at that price.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:43:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Account-Billing/Help-a-noob/m-p/1927332#M66387</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-30T17:43:53Z</dc:date>
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