Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
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Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
26-02-2010 11:45 PM
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Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 1:39 AM
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I did notice something interesting eartlier.
When I go on PlusNet`s HOME page, then like with most pages, I do get a `Privacy Report` icon at the bottom
of my screen.
When I double click on it, this is what it says :
PRIVACY REPORT
Based on your privacy settings, some cookies were restricted or blocked.
Website with content on the current page :
http://ad-emea.doubleclick.net/activity:src=143170 ; blocked
Underneath it then states thus :
To view a site`s privacy summary, select an item in the list, and then click Summary.
So I selected the ad-emea.doubleclick item - and then clicked on Summary.
Unfortunately it is not possible to copy and paste the info that is contained in that summary.
I dont profess to know anything about ad-emea.doubleclick.net/ - but sufficient is it to say that one of my
excellent Security programmes deems it risky enough to have `blocked` it.
I`m not even sure which of my programmes has done this - but the 2 most likely ones are :
SpywareBlaster (I do know it wont tolerate double-click) lol
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
and......
SuperAntispyware
http://download.cnet.com/SuperAntiSpyware-Free-Edition/3000-8022_4-10523889.html?tag=mncol
The `block` is NOT preventing my useage being monitored, but obviously it is blocking whatever else
ad-emea.doubleclick.net/ may or may not do.
When I get more time I`ll do abit of research on it.
Meantime, I`m sure others on here might have more knowledge than me lol
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 1:53 AM
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Just out of curiosity I thought I would check out Yahoo.
Unbelieveable, whilst my prog(s) block 59 such items !! including : ad-emea.doubleclick.net/
Thank goodness there are so many excellent programmes available to deal with all these.
It just feels like our PCs (once connected to the internet) are like a window into our world........
and no end of people are out there peering in without our permission.
I often wondered why Microsoft called their software : W I N D O W S (heehee)
`Not paranoid - but NOT dumb either`
SEARCH : http://ad-emea.doubleclick.net/
Privacy Policy (below)
http://www.doubleclick.com/privacy/index.aspx
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 9:08 AM
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Quote from: WildRose52 ...and strictly speaking one should have a licence in order to use iPlayer (or so TV Licencing people say)
Only if one is watching at the same time as the programme is being broadcast.
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ103/
Zen FTTC 40/10 + Digital Voice FRITZ!Box 7530
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Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 9:10 AM
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Doubleclick has nothing to do with PN, it is from one of the other dodgy web sites you have been looking at
Some cookies are desirable, PN use one for you to store the results of you mybroadbank speed tests
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 10:13 AM
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I don't use the various spyware cookie blocking software because I use Firefox.
That may seem a little odd but I have two things in my favour AdblockPlus stops most if not all advertising popups and I have set Firefox to ask every time in relation to cookies. Unlike IE8 Firefox has 3 options for cookies - accept, block and session. Unless I really want a site to keep records (such as this one with autologin) I block them but occasionally a site won't work without a cookie and in that case I opt for a session cookie which is automatically deleted when I close Firefox.
Whenever I do a check with Superantispyware it doesn't find anything.
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 10:24 AM
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Hello Pierre.
I would need to beg to differ with that opinion.
The Privacy Policy icon that comes up at the foot of my screen, ONLY comes up on pages where my
Security programme (probably SpywareBlaster) needs to alert me that something has been blocked.
I had already run Ccleaner and cleaned out all cookies.
When I go to PlusNet Home page thats when that icon alerts me (but it doesnt appear, for example,
on the forum pages) but appears again, if (for example) I was to now go to Yahoo.
Same on both Yahoo and PlusNet`s home page ; that cookie is blocked as a spyware item.
I have used SpywareBlaster for many years and I know full well how they work and what they block,
and they do list it as spyware and block it.
Unless, like me, you have SpywareBlaster, or an equally good programme that blocks it, then you
wont fully be able to see what I am saying here.
Thanks OldJim for your input also.
Actually you`ve probably hit the nail on the head when you mention FireFox.
I do use I.E. but that said, Ive never had any problems with I.E. because I have 3 anti-spyware programmes
I know how they work, they`re very good, and they`ve always protected me.
You, and many others in contrast find that Firefox and their ad-blocks do the same job.
I guess we all have our favs when it comes to browsers.
I particularly find I.E. easy regards the favourites list, and have more probs trying to work out how the others
work (I`m security concious, but not over techie lol)
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 11:40 AM
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McAfee Site Advisor :
http://www.siteadvisor.com/analysis/#
On the right hand side of the above site (and almost at the foot of the page)
you can check out any website you want by inserting the url into the check-box.
PlusNet report
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/plus.net
Someone did however post the comment below :
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=plus.net
The link will speak for itself.
Whether that is why my Security programmes blocks the cookie I mentioned, I do NOT know.
I therefore make NO judgement here, I`m just merely pointing it out in case the info is useful /
important etc.
I have attempted to read the `spamhaus.org` report, but I CANT make head or tail of it, other
than it appears that various groups use legitimate websites in order to send spam.
Please bear with my limited understanding - others, more techy might understand it all better
than I
In the meantime I have submitted : ad-emea.doubleclick.net/ to McAfee`s Site Advisor team
for analysis.
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 11:52 AM
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It states at the top Found 2 SBL listings for IPs under the responsibility of plus.net which is wrong as it actually refers to sites hosted on Plusnet including this one
http://ccgi.angustraining.force9.co.uk/news/user/list.php
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 12:35 PM
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I suspected someone might be able to offer an answer.
There`s always someone more in the know that I am lol.
Thanks for that.
Does this pose any risks ?
I think sometimes what many ppl fail to understand is that websites
do have `third parties` and therefore it isnt always one particular website
that causes problems but rather they can be caused from third party sites /partners
etc etc.
Even though Pierie used the word `paranoia` (and yes I forgive him cause I`m never nasty
to anyone) I think the McAfee link was most telling.
According to McAfee Site Advisor,
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/plus.net
PlusNet have connections to various 3rd parties
including :
MyBroadbandUseage.co.uk
MyBroadbandSpeed.co.uk
Metronet.co.uk
Madasafish.com
Flickr.com
f9.net.uk
bbc.co.uk
AND : doubleclick.net
As can be seen McAfee Site Advisor rates them all as `green sites` (aka: SAFE sites)
An individual check on the first 7 of those would appear to justify the SAFE rating.
However, and although McAfee also includes `doubleclick.net` as a SAFE site.....
User reviews tell an entirely different story.
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/doubleclick.net/summary/
In the absence of any other explanation I can only assume that is why my own Security
programme includes : ad-emea.doubleclick.net/ as an UN-safe cookie to have.
So far from being paranoid, there is an explanation obviously for why that is blocked.
SpywareBlaster has been around for a long time, and its a highly rated programme,
and differentiates well between what constitutes good or bad.
Ive just learned to take all the paranoia slurs with a pinch of salt now.
I tend to give ppl leaway because maybe they`ve not checked things out as much as I
have - or might be relatively new to the net even - so I just try to smile and carry on lol.
I do have to say, having now got to almost the end of my first week on PlusNet, I am happy
with their service so far. Connection was very easy, speed is fine (best I can expect due
to where I`m located) so no complaints on those.
As for this particular thread, and indeed others, I think ppl are just more aware nowadays
about all forms of tracking /privacy issues online, and of course, those who dont read about it
throw that little word paranoid /paranoia a little more freely than it deserves.
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 12:53 PM
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The reference to Doubleclick is "Doubleclick Spotlight" which appears to be tracking people clicking on advertising links although something is wrong with Google when I search for it as the links are blocked by Kaspersky I believe
Disabled Kaspersky to get the information
Quote What is Spotlight?
Spotlight is an optional tagging feature in DoubleClick Ad Exchange. Advertisers place Spotlight tags on web pages where they want to record user activity. When a user views or clicks an ad, then later performs a Spotlight activity on an advertiser's web page, DoubleClick Ad Exchange records the activity as either a post-impression activity or post-click activity.
There are two types of Spotlight tags:
* Counter tag: Tracks the volume of user actions
* Sales tag: Tracks the amount of revenue resulting from user actions.
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 1:48 PM
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Quote from: WildRose52
Cashless shopping has already been tested in Germany.
Find in strange that it's being tested in Germany as the Germans preference is for cash. Most outlets do not accept credit cards, I was held as security in a petrol station while my friend went to find a cash point as the station did not accept Visa or Master Charge
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 3:25 PM
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Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 3:37 PM
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Hi OldJim,
when you checked your cookies did you just check for doubleclick.net ?
or did you check for : ad-emea.doubleclick.net/ as well ?
Its the latter of those that my security programme was showing.
Someone else just suggested to me to use Firefox, and then get
`Ghostery`
So I`ve tested that out on my older PC - and I went on PlusNet`s Home
page (using FireFox), and admittingly it DIDNT put up any warnings.
I`m now tending to believe that its maybe only because doubleclick.net
is somehow associated with PlusNet.... then it might be leading programmes
like SpywareBlaster to be abit sensitive.
Certainly doesnt appear to be anything with PlusNet itself.
Re: Is all the `tracking` necessary ?
27-02-2010 4:12 PM
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Quote from: WildRose52 Unfortunately and unless ppl are made aware of it, then they only hear about RFID here in the UK, and even
some of my friends say: `it will never happen` but when you start to run a SEARCH on RFID Europe, or
RFID Asia, & RFID USA
You must live in a technology free zone. The Oyster Card is a RFID card and Barclaycard have been doing a combined credit card Oyster card for several years. They now have morphed this to include the contactless payment system.
As for Germany fingerprinting system only 150,000 are using it .
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