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« Reply #64 on 19/09/2011, 16:25 »
Notice that on the two disks shown below that partitions enclosed in an extended partition are coloured light blue, whilst primary partitions aren't.
BTW ext3 has a slightly different colour to ext4.  Shocked
Here are two disks with 3 primary partitions each:-

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« Reply #65 on 19/09/2011, 16:35 »
"Look & Feel" they will all HAVE to be different to stop the law suits flying 
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« Reply #66 on 20/09/2011, 10:55 »
From my downloads folder

Linuxmint-11-gnome-dvd-32bit.iso    887,800kb

and don`t forget to also download  B43 installer package ( to get your wireless working! ! !)...

The B43 doesn't always work, I have a Broadcom 43xx wifi in my laptop (an old Acer) and the only OS that has got it to work was Fedora 15 and that without downloading B43. For that laptop with Ubuntu v10.04 LTS I have to use my ASUS Wifi dongle. My new Acer laptop works OK so apparently doesn't have Broadcom Wifi.
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« Reply #67 on 01/10/2011, 13:12 »
HB  Re: Reply #62

I am getting nearer to doing the repartitioning as you suggest. One final (?) query, you suggest parking a folder containing the HP guph in space on the extended partition after the linux stuff which is OK, but I am unclear where or how to get the contents back into the M$ partitions. Clearly  Win 7 expects to find it in its own partition and there is now no space for it. Advice please.

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« Reply #68 on 01/10/2011, 14:19 »
You copied the contents of the small partition to a folder - yes?
In W7 just move it back to a new partition at the end of the extended partition (so you have Linux (/ , home, & swap) then a small one for these files) if you create it as fat32 you will be able to see it in W7 disk manager just mount it temporarily and move the files to it then unmount it.
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« Reply #69 on 01/10/2011, 15:41 »
That was quick HB, thanks.

I have not yet copied the little HP partition contents to a folder, I am only making quite sure that I have all the steps clear in my mind before doing anything. I had intended to format the new partition to FAT 32 and give it exactly the same name as it had before. I would be pleased if Win 7 will see it there despite being inside another partition, which it was not initially. It sounds basically simple as you describe it, let us hope that will be the case!!

   Cheesy Cheesy

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« Reply #70 on 01/10/2011, 16:55 »
it won't be in another partition it will be a partition in its own right. When you use the M$ tool it will show 3 unknown partitions (the Linux ones) then the fat32 one, just click on it and make it a drive letter, copy the stuff over then remove the drive letter from the tool again.
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« Reply #71 on 14/12/2011, 16:29 »
Hi HB!

Other work has prevented me from progressing with the HP laptop (Win 7 running well!) but it has eased off for Christmas. Have a good one if you can!

 I have shrunk the Win 7 Partition to 250GB and put the contents of the little HP FAT 32 into a folder in My Documents (and on a CDR as an external back-up). In doing so I found that there are two folders in it looking as though they are concerned with BIOS. If they are for the whole system and therefore there is not the usual one lurking on the motherboard, I am worried that I could get into a problem during the removal of the little partition so that the extended partition can be created without a working BIOS temporarily.  This suggests to me that HP have chosen to make it difficult to manage the HD to include another OS by taking up the 4 primaries in the first place and making impracticable to just delete the HP Guph, or indeed Win 7 as well. Am I being cynical?

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« Reply #72 on 14/12/2011, 17:05 »
Since a BIOS will work fine without a hard disk installed in the machine, the contents of the HP tools partition can't be that critical. A google search gave various things on HP forums suggesting the HP tools partition was either for updating the bios, or to allow Windows programs to access the bios settings. One of them also suggested that after making the recovery DVDs, then you could dispose of the recovery partition.
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« Reply #73 on 14/12/2011, 17:12 »
The BIOS will not check any hard disks for any HP crud - so it won't notice if it isn't there.  Grin


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« Reply #74 on 15/12/2011, 12:41 »
Hi Jeremy,

I got too excited by seeing the titles of the folders, I did make the point before that I was going to proceed carefully and had a horrible vision of not being able to boot up after the shuffling of the partitions. My cynical attitude to M$ and their associates does colour things a bit! I certainly did not seriously think that there was not a usual on-board BIOS and I guess that ejs is not far from expressing the truth.

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« Reply #75 on 24/02/2012, 12:44 »
Hi lads,,

A nasty bit of ill-health has kept me away from the keyboard but I should be able to dive into installing Mint11 soon. I have the live discs for 32 and 64 bit versions. Is there any value in going to one or the other?  I shall be using the built-in GParted to create the extended partition which will have the three ext3 (4?) ones in place and a small one formatted to FAT32 for the HP Guph. I believe that GParted will do all that for me OK.?

I have noted some disquiet about Mint 12, if I soldier on with Mint 11 do I have to convert to 12 before considering a future 13?

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« Reply #76 on 24/02/2012, 13:35 »
I converted from Ubuntu to Mint 12 - which required a major re-install anyway.
The configuration of Mint 12 (when it came out) was very trial and error.

I think Mint always goes down the re-install route, instead of an upgrade.

I'd suggest Mint 11 would be easier - it seems likely that 13 will be less messy than 12.

Strictly speaking, if you have less than 4GB of main memory, then 32 bit is sufficient; but since you can run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit system why not go for 64 bit?
I did - and I have "only" 2GB of memory.

As an illustration of what is possible - but not recommended, see below.  Smiley


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« Reply #77 on 24/02/2012, 15:13 »
I'm still on M11 (64bit) and can't see me moving to M12 at all. M13 possibly with Cinnamon more developed.

See my pic for my current setup of 4 (FOUR) active Linux systems (M11/M12/Pinguy/LMDE) , but only really using M11 I may delete the rest as I don't use them but was testing them to see if I preferred any over my current setup.

Mint prefers a clean install (of the / partition you can keep the /home). I have tried insitu upgrades and it was messy and SLOW, faster to copy a few files from wherever and edit them back after an install.

Gparted will do all of your partitioning needs.


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« Reply #78 on 25/02/2012, 11:42 »
@Jeremy. That is a comfort. I will go down the 64bit route as bags of memory is available. I shall do a clean instal of Mint 11 because the new laptop only has Win 7 aboard, now in a 250GB batch of partitions. The remaining 200GB will be the extended partition with the three for Mint and one tiddler for the HP Guph. The /home will be all that the instal puts into it initially, I have my Ubuntu /home in a back-up on a USB stick and,      presumably I can just transfer the bits that I will want.

@HB I notice that you insert a boot flag for one partition  and a boot label for another. I seem to remember that the insertion of these is done manually in Gparted  and assume that the flag is for Mint  itself. I do not understand the purpose of the label.

From earlier posts I believe that the system will query which OS I want to use on booting-up automatically. If not what is the drill to do this?

Progress at last!

Thanks

 
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« Reply #79 on 25/02/2012, 13:58 »
That boot flag indicates that the partition is bootable - you can set it in gparted, although I don't actually know if Linux needs it.

The partion label of "boot" was me trying to reduce confusion by giving the partitions names - so I would allocate space for the /boot partition in boot, /home sits in home etc...
(It stems from a time when I wiped all partitions except /home.
I'd advise that you don't use any special characters such as spaces - just a-z.


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