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16-06-2009 8:22 PM
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Long time Plusnet customer but first time poster
I was wondering what PlusNet's position on the recently released Digital Britain report is, particularly in regards to this extract....
P111.
“the Government will also provide for backstop powers for Ofcom to place additional conditions on ISPs aimed at reducing or preventing online copyright infringement by the application of various technical measures. In order to provide greater certainty for the development of commercial agreements, the Government proposes to specify in the legislation what these further measures might be; namely: Blocking (Site, IP, URL), Protocol blocking, Port blocking, Bandwidth capping (capping the speed of a subscriber’s Internet connection and/or capping the volume of data traffic which a subscriber can access); Bandwidth shaping (limiting the speed of a subscriber’s access to selected protocols/services and/or capping the volume of data to selected protocols/services); Content identification and filtering– or a combination of these measures.”
I know Plusnet engages in a degree of traffic shaping and throttling, however they have always been up front about it and detail exactly when and when it won't occur. This openness is the reason I chose Plusnet and the reason that I recommend them to anyone who can't run away fast enough.
However the report policy appears to imply that it will take measures to censor access and use of P2P networks using ISPs. Using P2P is not illegal, it's copyright infringement that is the issue, however to block an entire distribution system in case a person MAY be infringing copyright is rather draconian.
As Plusnet appears to recognise the consumer's use of high traffic systems such as P2P (i.e. the free bandwidth zone of midnight to 8am) It would be great to get a response from them.
I'd be very appreciative if one turned up 😄 Thank You!
P.S> I had no idea what forum to drop this in so if you think it should be moved go ahead!
I was wondering what PlusNet's position on the recently released Digital Britain report is, particularly in regards to this extract....
P111.
“the Government will also provide for backstop powers for Ofcom to place additional conditions on ISPs aimed at reducing or preventing online copyright infringement by the application of various technical measures. In order to provide greater certainty for the development of commercial agreements, the Government proposes to specify in the legislation what these further measures might be; namely: Blocking (Site, IP, URL), Protocol blocking, Port blocking, Bandwidth capping (capping the speed of a subscriber’s Internet connection and/or capping the volume of data traffic which a subscriber can access); Bandwidth shaping (limiting the speed of a subscriber’s access to selected protocols/services and/or capping the volume of data to selected protocols/services); Content identification and filtering– or a combination of these measures.”
I know Plusnet engages in a degree of traffic shaping and throttling, however they have always been up front about it and detail exactly when and when it won't occur. This openness is the reason I chose Plusnet and the reason that I recommend them to anyone who can't run away fast enough.
However the report policy appears to imply that it will take measures to censor access and use of P2P networks using ISPs. Using P2P is not illegal, it's copyright infringement that is the issue, however to block an entire distribution system in case a person MAY be infringing copyright is rather draconian.
As Plusnet appears to recognise the consumer's use of high traffic systems such as P2P (i.e. the free bandwidth zone of midnight to 8am) It would be great to get a response from them.
I'd be very appreciative if one turned up 😄 Thank You!
P.S> I had no idea what forum to drop this in so if you think it should be moved go ahead!
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Re: Digital Britain
16-06-2009 10:04 PM
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Quote from: Minyall “In order to provide greater certainty for the development of commercial agreements, the Government proposes to specify in the legislation what these further measures might be; namely: Blocking (Site, IP, URL), Protocol blocking, Port blocking, Bandwidth capping (capping the speed of a subscriber’s Internet connection and/or capping the volume of data traffic which a subscriber can access); Bandwidth shaping (limiting the speed of a subscriber’s access to selected protocols/services and/or capping the volume of data to selected protocols/services); Content identification and filtering– or a combination of these measures.”
Plusnet already do all the proposed measures (except mandatory port blocking).
They block IP addresses, some URL's - or certain pages of some URL's
They certainly cap volumes and speeds (by protocol) and carry out content identification and filtering.
However, the good news...
This is only a proposal about bringing forward legislation to instruct OFGEM before the House of Commons etc.
See the article in the Guardian's site for the slim chance this has of succeeding before the next election
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
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17-06-2009 1:27 PM
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Hi there,
We'll be blogging this at some point very soon, along with our thoughts.
We'll be blogging this at some point very soon, along with our thoughts.
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Re: Digital Britain
17-06-2009 2:31 PM
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a summary here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/16/digital_britain_summary/
i have only got to page 60 of 245 so far, the day job getting in the way.
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Re: Digital Britain
17-06-2009 6:15 PM
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On Pg 63:
These guys have been duped by the mobile network operators into saying there will be widespread AND reliable access to LTE, this is not going to be the case, unless we have base stations in each home or 10.
This is very poor.
Why oh Why do they not come and talk to the guys actually developing this technology!
Quote At the same time, mobile will play an important role in developing alternative
means of connectivity across much of the country. Next Generation Mobile
services will offer substantially higher speeds and data rate capabilities than
3G. This will mark an acceleration in the trend of mobile networks being used
more for data than voice traffic. As we outline below, Long Term Evolution (LTE)
technology is capable of delivering a range of speeds up to 50Mbps in a
competitive, multi-operator market. We will take the necessary steps to ensure
spectrum is available for use and the market remains competitive. But here too,
the costs of deployment rise in the final third of the country, meaning the
investment required to install the density of base stations needed to support
very high bandwidths becomes uneconomic. While we believe, therefore, that
the market will deliver new higher mobile data rates to the final third of the
country, this may not be at genuinely ‘next generation’ bandwidths.
These guys have been duped by the mobile network operators into saying there will be widespread AND reliable access to LTE, this is not going to be the case, unless we have base stations in each home or 10.
This is very poor.
Why oh Why do they not come and talk to the guys actually developing this technology!
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Re: Digital Britain
17-06-2009 6:48 PM
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Strange, was in Fowey recently and couldnt get the mobile signal on three opreators
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