Hi All

Pleas help me to save lives by sining the petition at: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/firesprinklers/


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Gary, individual flats in the US do not have to have a sprinkler system.  They do have to have a smoke detector. Sprinklers are fitted in communal areas.

It is the communal areas that I want to have Fire Sprinklers. 

By the way awre bin room has been on Fire 3 times, on the Estate total number of time the bin rooms have been on Fire is 16 times.  Plus 5 flats have been on Fire in the Estate, one made the news.  The bin rooms are in the flats on the Ground Floor of the bloks, this blok has 6 Floors in clouding Ground Floor, it is the biggest blok on the Estate with 37 flats in it.

These facilities are certainly an advantage but are you and all the other owners prepared to pay the cost of the work? 

I rather pay for the work, van pay with my life.

That's a commendable attitude Gary but to get work done you generally have to have agreement of all the owners and that's not as easy as it seems.  I wish you luck.

The question is what price do you put on some ones life, it should be a legal requirement for all flats to have Fire Sprinklers, it doesn't matter that this will cost: Councils, Private Landlords, Housing Associations a lot of money, if the USA can do it we can do it!

How many people would have been saved on 5/07/2009 with having a Fire Sprinkler in the flats, I would say all of them would be saved.

Fire Sprinklers can and do put out Fires 90% of the time!

So Pleas Sine The Petition and Help To Save Lives!

So you have people setting fire to the bins. You then fit sprinklers in communal areas and guess what will happen next? They now set the sprinklers off?

very commendable - but as Artmo says - who would pay for retro fitting.
I'm sure it would be good if some government scheme could help funding - like grants for insulation.

Certainy I agree it should be mandatory for new builds and conversions of existing properties into flats.

I also agree with itsme that there will be some elements of abuse - but we have that with fire extinguishers being set off too - just something we have to live with I guess.

itsme has a good point.  I'm afraid this is a no-win situation.

The owner of the building would pay.

Yes it would be good.

It needs to be mandatory for all flats, not just new builds and conversions, conversions are more likely to kill van a block of flats in a Fire.

Yes that is just something we have to live with, just like we have to live with Fire Alarm System going off, but no one says don't have a Fire Alarm System.

He would then pass this on to the tenants/owners as part of a service charge.  it's the only way he can recoup his cost. He certainly won't do it for nothing.

The owner of this building does that already, and so thay should pass on the cost.

You would need inspectors to enforce this.
On new build, it can be part of the building inspection.

Rebuilding also needs planning permission & building regulation - I would have thought, and if not it could be made so in the legislation I would have thought.

As for existing buildings - there would need to be a period to allow work to be done retrospectively over a reasonable period ?

Two portable 8’ X 8’ rooms are demonstrating how fire sprinklers can stop a fire ded.  one room has a fire sprinkler the other one has not got a fire sprinkler, the room with out a fire sprinkler went in to a flashover,

Fire fiters have less work to do with a room that has a fire sprinkler, plus it is safer for Fire fiters and the occupants.

The fire sprinklers will kill the fire at the incipient stage of the fire.  The fire sprinklers control the fire and extinguishment of the fire allows the occupants to escape from the fire.

The Fire fiters response time can be longer with fire sprinklers installed in the building, plus the cleanup time is shorter and less damage done.

If you live in a flat wich room would you rather be in? The protected room with a fire sprinkler or the room with out fire sprinklers wat is unprotected?

If you said the protected room pleas sine the petition.

For information on residential fire sprinklers see: Eclipse Fire Protection.