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	<title>Comments on: Plusnet shortlisted for PC Pro Awards</title>
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		<title>By: Kelly Dorset</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5578</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Dorset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackketch &gt; Feel free to PM me from the forums to continue the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackketch > Feel free to PM me from the forums to continue the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: jackketch</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5576</link>
		<dc:creator>jackketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm if my ISP is censoring the web (which is what &#039;blocking sites surely is) on the say so of an unelected, unaccountable star chamber of internet-sheriffs then they deserve to be portrayed in a very bad light.

Thing is, far as I know, Kelly isn&#039;t even allowed to tell me if the site(s) in question are indeed on the IWF list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm if my ISP is censoring the web (which is what 'blocking sites surely is) on the say so of an unelected, unaccountable star chamber of internet-sheriffs then they deserve to be portrayed in a very bad light.</p>
<p>Thing is, far as I know, Kelly isn't even allowed to tell me if the site(s) in question are indeed on the IWF list.</p>
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		<title>By: s_d_c</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5575</link>
		<dc:creator>s_d_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough if you have a valid concern, just didn&#039;t think that the comments section of a community site article was the best place for it to get read, without painting PNT in a bad light for ONE incident.

AFAUI, they haven&#039;t admitted censoring the internet, just following the guidelines of the IWF (who draw up which sites to block). Have you followed up the question about flaky routing/hosting (via the appropriate channels, of course ;-) )?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough if you have a valid concern, just didn't think that the comments section of a community site article was the best place for it to get read, without painting PNT in a bad light for ONE incident.</p>
<p>AFAUI, they haven't admitted censoring the internet, just following the guidelines of the IWF (who draw up which sites to block). Have you followed up the question about flaky routing/hosting (via the appropriate channels, of course <img src='http://community.plus.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )?</p>
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		<title>By: jackketch</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5573</link>
		<dc:creator>jackketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@s_d_c, yeah sorry it does sound a bit like it comes from under the bridge doesn&#039;t it? But these awards are for customer Satisfaction , right? Would you think comments like &quot;Well done plusnet-a satisfied customer&quot; also trolling?

Anyways you&#039;re right that isn&#039;t really the place for a discussion of plusnet&#039;s censoring of the internet(which I hoped you noticed they admit). My comment was simply me expressing my levels of both statisfaction and dissatisfaction as a premium business rate customer. I didn&#039;t realise that Kelly was going to try and play Sherlock Holmes and come up with the wrong answer. I&#039;m going to leave this now unless Kelly has more to say on the issue (email would be better).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@s_d_c, yeah sorry it does sound a bit like it comes from under the bridge doesn't it? But these awards are for customer Satisfaction , right? Would you think comments like "Well done plusnet-a satisfied customer" also trolling?</p>
<p>Anyways you're right that isn't really the place for a discussion of plusnet's censoring of the internet(which I hoped you noticed they admit). My comment was simply me expressing my levels of both statisfaction and dissatisfaction as a premium business rate customer. I didn't realise that Kelly was going to try and play Sherlock Holmes and come up with the wrong answer. I'm going to leave this now unless Kelly has more to say on the issue (email would be better).</p>
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		<title>By: s_d_c</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5560</link>
		<dc:creator>s_d_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jackketch - oh, the world is out to get me. Seriously, this has nothing to do with the shortlisting for an award. I spy a troll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jackketch - oh, the world is out to get me. Seriously, this has nothing to do with the shortlisting for an award. I spy a troll?</p>
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		<title>By: jackketch</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>jackketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm sorry but you don&#039;t know what site(s) I&#039;m talking about. I&#039;m assuming you&#039;ve looked at my last tech support ticket and got confused. This is NOT about the site mentioned there.

We&#039;ll never know if the sites I&#039;m talking about are on the IWF&#039;s list will we, because you keep those details secret as per your NDA  with them, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm sorry but you don't know what site(s) I'm talking about. I'm assuming you've looked at my last tech support ticket and got confused. This is NOT about the site mentioned there.</p>
<p>We'll never know if the sites I'm talking about are on the IWF's list will we, because you keep those details secret as per your NDA  with them, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Dorset</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5552</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Dorset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We aren&#039;t blocking the site you are talking about.  I&#039;ve just confirmed that.  Are you sure it doesn&#039;t just have flaky hosting and routing?

The only blocking that is done is for sites identified by the IWF which is out of our control.   For more information, have a look here:  http://www.iwf.org.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We aren't blocking the site you are talking about.  I've just confirmed that.  Are you sure it doesn't just have flaky hosting and routing?</p>
<p>The only blocking that is done is for sites identified by the IWF which is out of our control.   For more information, have a look here:  <a href="http://www.iwf.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iwf.org.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jackketch</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5495</link>
		<dc:creator>jackketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps. I&#039;ll enjoy my month&#039;s free subscription and then look around, when my contract ends, for an ISP which doesn&#039;t feel the need to stop me reading what some bearded, wild eyed, hook handed, muslim nutjob has to say for himself.

I&#039;ll probably email my MP too just so I know I have done something...you know that whole &#039;For evil to triumph&#039; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. I'll enjoy my month's free subscription and then look around, when my contract ends, for an ISP which doesn't feel the need to stop me reading what some bearded, wild eyed, hook handed, muslim nutjob has to say for himself.</p>
<p>I'll probably email my MP too just so I know I have done something...you know that whole 'For evil to triumph' thing.</p>
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		<title>By: jackketch</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator>jackketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly, sorry no, it was done over the phone. There&#039;s very little that can be done about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly, sorry no, it was done over the phone. There's very little that can be done about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Dorset</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/08/19/plusnet-shortlisted-for-pc-pro-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-5481</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Dorset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackketch:  Do you have a ticket id I can look at to investigate that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackketch:  Do you have a ticket id I can look at to investigate that?</p>
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