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		<title>By: John Ferris</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-7797</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ferris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a very happy user of your broadband.
I have been asked if you might ever add mobile broadband as a small! extra charge to your standard connections</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a very happy user of your broadband.<br />
I have been asked if you might ever add mobile broadband as a small! extra charge to your standard connections</p>
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		<title>By: ADSL2+/21CN - PlusNet's Plans &#124; Community Site News</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-6176</link>
		<dc:creator>ADSL2+/21CN - PlusNet's Plans &#124; Community Site News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is go into some of the details of how we will deliver them to our customers. As we mentioned in our plans for 2008/9 this year we will begin testing ADSL2+ to our customers. This is a big project and will really [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is go into some of the details of how we will deliver them to our customers. As we mentioned in our plans for 2008/9 this year we will begin testing ADSL2+ to our customers. This is a big project and will really [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is free broadband really the future? &#124; Community Site News</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator>Is free broadband really the future? &#124; Community Site News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;ve a full awards cabinet to evidence our credentials. We&#8217;ve already published our plans for 2008/09 and we&#8217;re on track to make some improvements to our broadband and home phone services later [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we&#8217;ve a full awards cabinet to evidence our credentials. We&#8217;ve already published our plans for 2008/09 and we&#8217;re on track to make some improvements to our broadband and home phone services later [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Wild</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3466</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys, 

I&#039;ll answer the questions about Vision point by point:

&lt;strong&gt;Home Hub needed for Vision?&lt;/strong&gt;

When Vision content is being streamed via a BT Home Hub, a QoS (Quality of Service) session is set up that controls and prioritises the flow of data across the network. Customers on lower speed lines or who utilise their connection heavily while watching Vision content will find the service unusable without this. 

For the BT Vision service to function as it was designed this QoS feature of the Home Hub is required. It is true that you don&#039;t *need* it, but fundamentally the product is incomplete without it. We could not offer the current BT Vision product without the QoS element being part of the product for this reason. 

&lt;strong&gt;Network&lt;/strong&gt;

BT Vision is powered by the Microsoft Mediaroom IPTV platform, which will open up a lot of functionality, especially once the V2 Vision box is launched. The current BT Vision platform design places a huge capacity requirement on the Headend side of the connection (The Headend are the servers that sit on BTs network and control the content and data stream), which will only increase as new features are launched. 

To enable the service to work on our network, both our architecture and wholesale product mix would need to be changed pretty significantly so we can gain efficient access to the Vision Headend platform. With the work to move us to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.switchedonuk.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;21CN &lt;/a&gt;now underway, there would simply be no point in us reconfiguring this now - We would need to do it again almost immediately for the move to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.switchedonuk.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;21CN &lt;/a&gt;network. Once we have moved over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.switchedonuk.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;21CN &lt;/a&gt;this will be a somewhat different story.  

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Subscription / Authentication&lt;/strong&gt;

In order to use Vision, the Vision box has to authenticate and be identified by the IPTV platform as a subscriber of the service. Billing and other customer data would have to be securely transferred between our systems and BTs in real-time. This is certainly technically possible, but it requires quite a bit of development work. Until this is done the BT Vision product won&#039;t be able to recognise and provide service to our customers. 
&lt;strong&gt;
Alternatives&lt;/strong&gt;

As you can gather from the above, providing the current Vision product to our customers isn&#039;t just a case of posting out some V-boxes for people to plug in. The BT Vision product as-is was designed to be used only with the BT infrastructure, and the question has to be asked whether it is in fact easier to redesign the product from the ground up so that it can be used on our (and of course other BT partner) networks. We are helping BT with that, and this outcome is probably more likely as a short term solution.

At this moment in time however, no solution is that close, and I would imagine we are talking at least 9 - 12 months before we would be in a position to deliver Vision in any form whatsoever. That is why it&#039;s not been included in the plans for this year, although we would dearly love to be in a position to offer it sooner. 

I hope that&#039;s useful information - I&#039;m just sorry it can&#039;t be more positive for the moment. I will try to provide regular updates on progress via the community site forum. 

Cheers,

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, </p>
<p>I'll answer the questions about Vision point by point:</p>
<p><strong>Home Hub needed for Vision?</strong></p>
<p>When Vision content is being streamed via a BT Home Hub, a QoS (Quality of Service) session is set up that controls and prioritises the flow of data across the network. Customers on lower speed lines or who utilise their connection heavily while watching Vision content will find the service unusable without this. </p>
<p>For the BT Vision service to function as it was designed this QoS feature of the Home Hub is required. It is true that you don't *need* it, but fundamentally the product is incomplete without it. We could not offer the current BT Vision product without the QoS element being part of the product for this reason. </p>
<p><strong>Network</strong></p>
<p>BT Vision is powered by the Microsoft Mediaroom IPTV platform, which will open up a lot of functionality, especially once the V2 Vision box is launched. The current BT Vision platform design places a huge capacity requirement on the Headend side of the connection (The Headend are the servers that sit on BTs network and control the content and data stream), which will only increase as new features are launched. </p>
<p>To enable the service to work on our network, both our architecture and wholesale product mix would need to be changed pretty significantly so we can gain efficient access to the Vision Headend platform. With the work to move us to <a href="http://www.switchedonuk.org/" rel="nofollow">21CN </a>now underway, there would simply be no point in us reconfiguring this now - We would need to do it again almost immediately for the move to the <a href="http://www.switchedonuk.org/" rel="nofollow">21CN </a>network. Once we have moved over to <a href="http://www.switchedonuk.org/" rel="nofollow">21CN </a>this will be a somewhat different story.  </p>
<p><strong><br />
Subscription / Authentication</strong></p>
<p>In order to use Vision, the Vision box has to authenticate and be identified by the IPTV platform as a subscriber of the service. Billing and other customer data would have to be securely transferred between our systems and BTs in real-time. This is certainly technically possible, but it requires quite a bit of development work. Until this is done the BT Vision product won't be able to recognise and provide service to our customers.<br />
<strong><br />
Alternatives</strong></p>
<p>As you can gather from the above, providing the current Vision product to our customers isn't just a case of posting out some V-boxes for people to plug in. The BT Vision product as-is was designed to be used only with the BT infrastructure, and the question has to be asked whether it is in fact easier to redesign the product from the ground up so that it can be used on our (and of course other BT partner) networks. We are helping BT with that, and this outcome is probably more likely as a short term solution.</p>
<p>At this moment in time however, no solution is that close, and I would imagine we are talking at least 9 - 12 months before we would be in a position to deliver Vision in any form whatsoever. That is why it's not been included in the plans for this year, although we would dearly love to be in a position to offer it sooner. </p>
<p>I hope that's useful information - I'm just sorry it can't be more positive for the moment. I will try to provide regular updates on progress via the community site forum. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: PeterWin</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3423</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterWin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 08:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an unbundled LLU customer, will I benefit from ADSL2+ when it is rolled out later  this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an unbundled LLU customer, will I benefit from ADSL2+ when it is rolled out later  this year?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3384</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 23:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I am very disappointed that BT Vision has been pushed back and still has no 
&gt;&gt; fixed deadline for implementation - that’s thje only reason I checked this 
&gt;&gt; announcement. Once again, I will have to seriously consider moving to BT, 
&gt;&gt; because there just doesn’t seem to be any real commitment to getting this 
&gt;&gt; service working.

SNAP!  Surely it doesn&#039;t need the home hub to launch BT Vision?  I have a few friends on BT Internet that are using their own wireless routers rather than the Home Hub and they are using BT Vision without any problems, surely the BT Vision box just connects to any Internet connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I am very disappointed that BT Vision has been pushed back and still has no<br />
&gt;&gt; fixed deadline for implementation - that’s thje only reason I checked this<br />
&gt;&gt; announcement. Once again, I will have to seriously consider moving to BT,<br />
&gt;&gt; because there just doesn’t seem to be any real commitment to getting this<br />
&gt;&gt; service working.</p>
<p>SNAP!  Surely it doesn't need the home hub to launch BT Vision?  I have a few friends on BT Internet that are using their own wireless routers rather than the Home Hub and they are using BT Vision without any problems, surely the BT Vision box just connects to any Internet connection?</p>
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		<title>By: John Hurrell</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3379</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hurrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very disappointed that BT Vision has been pushed back and still has no fixed deadline for implementation - that&#039;s thje only reason I checked this announcement.  Once again, I will have to seriously consider moving to BT, because there just doesn&#039;t seem to be any real commitment to getting this service working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very disappointed that BT Vision has been pushed back and still has no fixed deadline for implementation - that's thje only reason I checked this announcement.  Once again, I will have to seriously consider moving to BT, because there just doesn't seem to be any real commitment to getting this service working.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Wild</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3355</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would have loved to improve Option 1 in the most recent refresh, but the reality is that we can&#039;t change much there at the moment. 

When you consider that after VAT we pay nearly all of your subscription straight to BT in fixed costs, you can hopefully understand why that is the case. See http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/28/how-uk-isps-are-charged-for-broadband-the-cost-of-ipstream/ for some details.

I&#039;m hopeful we will be able to improve Option 1 in some ways later this year, but it just wasn&#039;t something the bean counters would let us do at this point in time! 

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would have loved to improve Option 1 in the most recent refresh, but the reality is that we can't change much there at the moment. </p>
<p>When you consider that after VAT we pay nearly all of your subscription straight to BT in fixed costs, you can hopefully understand why that is the case. See <a href="http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/28/how-uk-isps-are-charged-for-broadband-the-cost-of-ipstream/" rel="nofollow">http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/28/how-uk-isps-are-charged-for-broadband-the-cost-of-ipstream/</a> for some details.</p>
<p>I'm hopeful we will be able to improve Option 1 in some ways later this year, but it just wasn't something the bean counters would let us do at this point in time! </p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a shame that you didn&#039;t see it necessary to increase BBYW Option 1. 1gb is a very small amount, even though I keep watch to make sure I don&#039;t go above this. It would be a lot fairer if you could have increased Option 1 with the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that you didn't see it necessary to increase BBYW Option 1. 1gb is a very small amount, even though I keep watch to make sure I don't go above this. It would be a lot fairer if you could have increased Option 1 with the others.</p>
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		<title>By: MEpstein</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/28/plusnets-plans-for-200809/comment-page-1/#comment-3348</link>
		<dc:creator>MEpstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come option 1 customers are discriminated against! So option 2/3 users get free usage increases but not us?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come option 1 customers are discriminated against! So option 2/3 users get free usage increases but not us?!!</p>
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