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	<title>Comments on: BBC iPlayer: The &quot;Hidden Costs&quot; of Watching TV Online? - The PlusNet Perspective</title>
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		<title>By: prignelligome</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/23/hidden-costs-of-watching-tv-online-the-plusnet-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-15517</link>
		<dc:creator>prignelligome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  http://watchtvonline1.com - watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places
can I watch tv online.



Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  <a href="http://watchtvonline1.com" rel="nofollow">http://watchtvonline1.com</a> - watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places<br />
can I watch tv online.</p>
<p>Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Enta.net launches opinionated community site &#124; Community Site News</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/23/hidden-costs-of-watching-tv-online-the-plusnet-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-7465</link>
		<dc:creator>Enta.net launches opinionated community site &#124; Community Site News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the iPlayer&#8221; deserves some comment, I feel. Given that in Dave&#8217;s blog about the Plusnet perspective on iPlayer (which unfortunately was not linked) Dave deliberately states that &#8220;we love the iPlayer - and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the iPlayer&#8221; deserves some comment, I feel. Given that in Dave&#8217;s blog about the Plusnet perspective on iPlayer (which unfortunately was not linked) Dave deliberately states that &#8220;we love the iPlayer - and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PlusNet in the news 6th June 08 &#124; Community Site News</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlusNet in the news 6th June 08 &#124; Community Site News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] critics of the iPlayer couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. As we&#8217;ve stated in several blogs on the subject, we love the iPlayer! It will be fascinating to see what effect broadcasting BBC1 on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] critics of the iPlayer couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. As we&#8217;ve stated in several blogs on the subject, we love the iPlayer! It will be fascinating to see what effect broadcasting BBC1 on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil_A</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/23/hidden-costs-of-watching-tv-online-the-plusnet-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Ward at the BBC has just published a new article looking at the growth of online video in the US and the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7370956.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Ward at the BBC has just published a new article looking at the growth of online video in the US and the UK<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7370956.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7370956.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil_A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only real problem being that iplayer isn’t currently set up to do it via a schedule.&quot;

We can already block (or very much restrict) Kontiki usage during the daytime using our traffic management platform. But that&#039;s really not the same as deliberately scheduling a programme to download overnight, and of course this doesn&#039;t work for the flash/streaming version of iPlayer.

We would love to put customers in control of what protocols get priority at what time, perhaps with some sort of desktop app that interfaces with our website/traffic management system to queue programmes up. We&#039;ll be very interested to see how Kangaroo develops especially if we can plug it into our traffic control system somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The only real problem being that iplayer isn’t currently set up to do it via a schedule."</p>
<p>We can already block (or very much restrict) Kontiki usage during the daytime using our traffic management platform. But that's really not the same as deliberately scheduling a programme to download overnight, and of course this doesn't work for the flash/streaming version of iPlayer.</p>
<p>We would love to put customers in control of what protocols get priority at what time, perhaps with some sort of desktop app that interfaces with our website/traffic management system to queue programmes up. We'll be very interested to see how Kangaroo develops especially if we can plug it into our traffic control system somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil_A</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/04/23/hidden-costs-of-watching-tv-online-the-plusnet-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does Plusnet foresee overnight bandwidth becoming limited if large numbers of people start using iplayer etc during this period?&quot;

I suppose it&#039;s a possibility, but for the foreseeable future doesn&#039;t seem very likely. If you have a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plus.net/support/network_performance/broadband_bandwidth_usage.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;third graph on our network page&lt;/a&gt; (the multi-coloured one showing different traffic types) there are very pronounced peaks and troughs. Overnight we&#039;re less than 50% utilised so there is a massive amount of bandwidth available. I&#039;ll ask Dave T to work out how many episodes of time-shift Dr Who required to fill the network overnight :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Does Plusnet foresee overnight bandwidth becoming limited if large numbers of people start using iplayer etc during this period?"</p>
<p>I suppose it's a possibility, but for the foreseeable future doesn't seem very likely. If you have a look at the <a href="http://www.plus.net/support/network_performance/broadband_bandwidth_usage.shtml" rel="nofollow">third graph on our network page</a> (the multi-coloured one showing different traffic types) there are very pronounced peaks and troughs. Overnight we're less than 50% utilised so there is a massive amount of bandwidth available. I'll ask Dave T to work out how many episodes of time-shift Dr Who required to fill the network overnight <img src='http://community.plus.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: God</title>
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		<dc:creator>God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it won’t suite everyone but downloading programs during the overnight ‘free’ period is a great solution. The only real problem being that iplayer isn’t currently set up to do it via a schedule. 

Hopefully ‘Kangaroo’ will have this built in. Does Plusnet foresee overnight bandwidth becoming limited if large numbers of people start using iplayer etc during this period?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it won’t suite everyone but downloading programs during the overnight ‘free’ period is a great solution. The only real problem being that iplayer isn’t currently set up to do it via a schedule. </p>
<p>Hopefully ‘Kangaroo’ will have this built in. Does Plusnet foresee overnight bandwidth becoming limited if large numbers of people start using iplayer etc during this period?</p>
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		<title>By: Kazamx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazamx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to admit I love these blogs. Its very interesting to see someone explain the problems ISPs face, without blaming everyone else for the problems.

I look forward to the blog explaining how plans are being developed to expand bandwidth across the whole UK network. We hear a lot about how users use too much, but not very much about how ISPs are doing everything in their power to meet demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to admit I love these blogs. Its very interesting to see someone explain the problems ISPs face, without blaming everyone else for the problems.</p>
<p>I look forward to the blog explaining how plans are being developed to expand bandwidth across the whole UK network. We hear a lot about how users use too much, but not very much about how ISPs are doing everything in their power to meet demand.</p>
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		<title>By: MauriceC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MauriceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Network bandwidth management is not as new as most Broadband users believe and is not the &#039;BEAST&#039; it is often made out to be.  Aggregating multiple streams of data down a single pipe (smaller in size than the sum of the inputs!) has been around for a long time.  Anyone recall Stat-muxing?  More recently it has become a necessity to ensure that best use is made of ALL the paid for capacity on any link.  The PlusNet mechanism of adding new capacity in a timely manner, combined with good traffic management keeps the costs down.

Simply adding sufficient capacity to match peak demand leaves a lot of unused (and unpaid for!) capacity in the troughs.

Maurice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Network bandwidth management is not as new as most Broadband users believe and is not the 'BEAST' it is often made out to be.  Aggregating multiple streams of data down a single pipe (smaller in size than the sum of the inputs!) has been around for a long time.  Anyone recall Stat-muxing?  More recently it has become a necessity to ensure that best use is made of ALL the paid for capacity on any link.  The PlusNet mechanism of adding new capacity in a timely manner, combined with good traffic management keeps the costs down.</p>
<p>Simply adding sufficient capacity to match peak demand leaves a lot of unused (and unpaid for!) capacity in the troughs.</p>
<p>Maurice</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not fogetting that iplayer will become something else in project kangaroo - including itv and channel 4 content in a single place, making online (UK) mainstream tv content more accessible.  so the 10% may very soon become 15%

great blog by the way Mr A!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not fogetting that iplayer will become something else in project kangaroo - including itv and channel 4 content in a single place, making online (UK) mainstream tv content more accessible.  so the 10% may very soon become 15%</p>
<p>great blog by the way Mr A!</p>
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