Comments on: Illegal Downloading to cause UK Internet Ban? http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/ News and Updates on the Community. Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:11:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: jst http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-5483 jst Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:43 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-5483 hehe. Remeber when illegal downloads wasnt that much of a problem? new games were typically £40. now they are forced to reduce it.... GOOD. Serves them right for being to greedy. But now that there is something intimidating their riches, they're forcing action... Whats happening to them is what was happening to the consumers, except now the consumers have the upper foot, dont remember anyone putting this much effort to prevent consumers getting ripped off. But what really pissed me off was when i went and bought a movie, village i think, because the trailer on TV looked really good, but it turned out to be sooooooo crap made me wanna puke. So i just wastd my hard earned cash in the hopes of just sitting down relaxing and watching a decent movie. Where's the movie now? in the garbage yard somewhere... so i threw a good £20 in the bin.Now if every movie was like independence day or armegeddon, then i would gladly spend £20 for it, it would also have its own place on my shelf. The funny thing is, they are trying to accomplish the impossible, and what are the ISPs thinking? If they try and intimidate users of their internet then customers will just stop using their services and either go to a provider which is still not doing anything to prevent this or just hack and "leech" off someone elses connection to download (those who know how, and it is becoming easier). And that you can never stop. The struggle with pirates and hackers has infinite potential it will never end and the only ones losing money are the corporations funding this kind of "crackdown". Also it will give way to a new level of hacking. They have to find a way to work with the flow as the above posters have suggested. File sharing appears to be a new era. It will happen. hehe. Remeber when illegal downloads wasnt that much of a problem? new games were typically £40. now they are forced to reduce it.... GOOD. Serves them right for being to greedy. But now that there is something intimidating their riches, they're forcing action... Whats happening to them is what was happening to the consumers, except now the consumers have the upper foot, dont remember anyone putting this much effort to prevent consumers getting ripped off. But what really pissed me off was when i went and bought a movie, village i think, because the trailer on TV looked really good, but it turned out to be sooooooo crap made me wanna puke. So i just wastd my hard earned cash in the hopes of just sitting down relaxing and watching a decent movie. Where's the movie now? in the garbage yard somewhere... so i threw a good £20 in the bin.Now if every movie was like independence day or armegeddon, then i would gladly spend £20 for it, it would also have its own place on my shelf.
The funny thing is, they are trying to accomplish the impossible, and what are the ISPs thinking? If they try and intimidate users of their internet then customers will just stop using their services and either go to a provider which is still not doing anything to prevent this or just hack and "leech" off someone elses connection to download (those who know how, and it is becoming easier). And that you can never stop. The struggle with pirates and hackers has infinite potential it will never end and the only ones losing money are the corporations funding this kind of "crackdown". Also it will give way to a new level of hacking. They have to find a way to work with the flow as the above posters have suggested. File sharing appears to be a new era. It will happen.

]]> By: They can enforce this and will.... http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-5124 They can enforce this and will.... Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:11:11 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-5124 A friend of mine recently got a letter from virgin media warning him about file sharing, it told him the time, date and more importantly exactly what he had been downloading! They even had the cheek to say he had to phone the company to apologise or his services would be terminated. Personally if it was me I would tell them where to stick that letter and go to another ISP!! A friend of mine recently got a letter from virgin media warning him about file sharing, it told him the time, date and more importantly exactly what he had been downloading! They even had the cheek to say he had to phone the company to apologise or his services would be terminated. Personally if it was me I would tell them where to stick that letter and go to another ISP!!

]]> By: me http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-4900 me Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:22:05 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-4900 dont see the point isps upgrading their bandwidth etc mean ive got 20mb so i dont really need it to surf yahoo britain pays dearer than anyone for cds dvds etc now we have to pay the price for downlodidng and most of it bloody crap, get real lower the bloody prices that people can afford dont see the point isps upgrading their bandwidth etc mean ive got 20mb so i dont really need it to surf yahoo britain pays dearer than anyone for cds dvds etc now we have to pay the price for downlodidng and most of it bloody crap, get real lower the bloody prices that people can afford

]]> By: David http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-3715 David Thu, 22 May 2008 04:26:06 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-3715 I hope they never get this power to pull the plug on internet users who share files, I resent having to pay up to 25 pounds for a cd in the high street! im sick of paying 130 pounds a year to the bbc for dull censored out of date programmes and right wing bighest news ,then being told to pay per view just for the level of qualitie we used to see for our money before any way. and every time my license expires I get a patronising ,threating red letter in the mail! well ive paid my licence for 12 years that runs into thousands of pounds! so please tell me why when i wish to buy a dvd of an ancient bbc comedy like black adder or red dwarf I am not entitled to a discount? I have already paid towards the production after all? so why is it 25 pounds? Well luckly I can read korean and japanese and I watch and listen to what I want when I want for free I can watch anything I saw 300 before it was released then I bought it second hand because it was ok. I watched king kong it was very very poor so I did not buy it. I watched easten promises....it was so good I bought it brand new from the shop. so in short try before you buy! it means that lazy crap producers can not just sit behind a load of CGI effects and make huge profits from disapointed film fans. This goverment and its close ifilates in monopolistic companys like the bbc as well as BT and others are scratching each others backs, slowly threading out a net that is strangling peoples civil liberties and consumer rights and. In order to achive two things for the goverment it is about seeing how much of a tool the computer can be to control and monitor peoples lives and keep people in there place. for the large companys its about preventing consumer choice and strangling the small artists and producers I hope they never get this power to pull the plug on internet users who share files, I resent having to pay up to 25 pounds for a cd in the high street!
im sick of paying 130 pounds a year to the bbc for dull censored out of date programmes and right wing bighest news ,then being told to pay per view just for the level of qualitie we used to see for our money before any way.
and every time my license expires I get a patronising ,threating red letter in the mail! well ive paid my licence for 12 years that runs into thousands of pounds!
so please tell me why when i wish to buy a dvd of an ancient bbc comedy like black adder or red dwarf I am not entitled to a discount?
I have already paid towards the production after all? so why is it 25 pounds?
Well luckly I can read korean and japanese and I watch and listen to what I want when I want for free I can watch anything I saw 300 before it was released then I bought it second hand because it was ok. I watched king kong it was very very poor so I did not buy it.
I watched easten promises....it was so good I bought it brand new from the shop.
so in short try before you buy! it means that lazy crap producers can not just sit behind a load of CGI effects and make huge profits from disapointed film fans.
This goverment and its close ifilates in monopolistic companys like the bbc as well as BT and others are scratching each others backs, slowly threading out a net that is strangling peoples civil liberties and consumer rights and. In order to achive two things
for the goverment it is about seeing how much of a tool the computer can be to control and monitor peoples lives and keep people in there place.
for the large companys its about preventing consumer choice and strangling the small artists and producers

]]> By: Tyler Diamond http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2369 Tyler Diamond Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:58:27 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2369 Does this need to be done? Does this need to be done?

]]> By: tyler diamond http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2368 tyler diamond Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:56:40 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2368 i hear you.. i hear you..

]]> By: alex wilson http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2367 alex wilson Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:52:05 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2367 yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeye yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeye

]]> By: Dennis2m 1999 (c) http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2247 Dennis2m 1999 (c) Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:34:41 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-2247 How much does it actually cost the RIAA/MPAA & the BPI to take people to court ? Why not put the court costs to another perspective & use their own EMI,Sony etc to produce their own recordable cd's & dvd's onto the market. Wouldn't that bring more money into the music & film industry than to take more money out by taking people to court. If the music & film industry is taking such a beating by piracy then why not make piracy legal & put their own recordable media/software onto the markets for people to still buy from them surely that would be a better alternative than to use silly money in taking people to court, surely that means if the RIAA/MPAA & the BPI are taking people to court they are losing more of their profits & losing all available funds to them by doing so. The RIAA/MPAA & the BPI already have the resources to put their own media/software onto the markets isn't it cheaper for them to put blank cd's/dvd's out onto markets that they still could make a profit from or convertable software to change an mp3 to wma or dvd to avi or viser versa. Wouldn't that boost sales rather than decrease them. Most people would rather pay for a name than pay for a no name. Children are always asked to share sweets, crisps & biscuits etc so whats wrong with a little sharing surely a profit can be made out of it some where. There is no need for greed sellfishness a perfect world or industry is a place of share & share alike. Greed leads to bankruptcy as prices go high consumers stop buying as their is some one who is smaller & cheaper some where else. Take Sony & Nintendo both have game consoles but yet Nintendo wii is cheaper than Sony ps3 people see the cheaper version a better value for money. So the cheaper it is the better it is. Same for music & movies the cheaper the music is the more it sells the cheaper & more action a film has the better it is & the more it will sell. That still doesn't mean that it wouldn't hurt to share a little. How much does it actually cost the RIAA/MPAA & the BPI to take people to court ? Why not put the court costs to another perspective & use their own EMI,Sony etc to produce their own recordable cd's & dvd's onto the market. Wouldn't that bring more money into the music & film industry than to take more money out by taking people to court. If the music & film industry is taking such a beating by piracy then why not make piracy legal & put their own recordable media/software onto the markets for people to still buy from them surely that would be a better alternative than to use silly money in taking people to court, surely that means if the RIAA/MPAA & the BPI are taking people to court they are losing more of their profits & losing all available funds to them by doing so. The RIAA/MPAA & the BPI already have the resources to put their own media/software onto the markets isn't it cheaper for them to put blank cd's/dvd's out onto markets that they still could make a profit from or convertable software to change an mp3 to wma or dvd to avi or viser versa. Wouldn't that boost sales rather than decrease them. Most people would rather pay for a name than pay for a no name. Children are always asked to share sweets, crisps & biscuits etc so whats wrong with a little sharing surely a profit can be made out of it some where. There is no need for greed sellfishness a perfect world or industry is a place of share & share alike. Greed leads to bankruptcy as prices go high consumers stop buying as their is some one who is smaller & cheaper some where else. Take Sony & Nintendo both have game consoles but yet Nintendo wii is cheaper than Sony ps3 people see the cheaper version a better value for money. So the cheaper it is the better it is. Same for music & movies the cheaper the music is the more it sells the cheaper & more action a film has the better it is & the more it will sell. That still doesn't mean that it wouldn't hurt to share a little.

]]> By: Dennis2m http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-1939 Dennis2m Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:44:06 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-1939 The Music industry could put win tickets to see your favourite artist now playing at..... The Film industry could put win tickets to meet your favourite actor now appearing at..... The software companies could give away software, games, win cinema tickets. Or they could join forces & put all kinds of fancy stuff in to sell recordable media to everybody. Then they all get great profits. But aswell as having great profits there giving people a choice either to buy origionals or to have a copy of the origional. I would prefer either the copy or origional but the origional is sometimes the best bet especially when it comes to software especially if it's games or antivirus Because copys mess up. But please could you make the origional software cheaper and the games as there nearly the same price as a laptop or a games console its a bit stupid really. Please pass these message's to all companys involved. The Music industry could put win tickets to see your favourite artist now playing at.....

The Film industry could put win tickets to meet your favourite actor now appearing at.....

The software companies could give away software, games, win cinema tickets.

Or they could join forces & put all kinds of fancy stuff in to sell recordable media to everybody. Then they all get great profits. But aswell as having great profits there giving people a choice either to buy origionals or to have a copy of the origional. I would prefer either the copy or origional but the origional is sometimes the best bet especially when it comes to software especially if it's games or antivirus Because copys mess up. But please could you make the origional software cheaper and the games as there nearly the same price as a laptop or a games console its a bit stupid really. Please pass these message's to all companys involved.

]]> By: Dennis2m http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-1938 Dennis2m Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:27:17 +0000 http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/#comment-1938 How much would people pay for an origional signature of an actor or music artist. Or what if it was like playing the lottery and there was only one real signature of that artist/actor in a origional cd/dvd. How many cd's or dvd's could the film & music industry sell. (Qustion) How much profit would they make. (Answer) probably more than they have ever made. By putting recordable cd's & dvd's onto the market from the film & music industry they will still be making money. So that means no profit loss No foul. They could easily snatch up the little companys that have already got cd's & dvd's out there already. That means big buisness big money. Or make the government divide the sales of all cd's & dvd's go to the music & film industry plus the software companies also. Thats recordable cd's & dvd's by the way. How much would people pay for an origional signature of an actor or music artist. Or what if it was like playing the lottery and there was only one real signature of that artist/actor in a origional cd/dvd. How many cd's or dvd's could the film & music industry sell. (Qustion) How much profit would they make. (Answer) probably more than they have ever made. By putting recordable cd's & dvd's onto the market from the film & music industry they will still be making money. So that means no profit loss No foul. They could easily snatch up the little companys that have already got cd's & dvd's out there already. That means big buisness big money. Or make the government divide the sales of all cd's & dvd's go to the music & film industry plus the software companies also. Thats recordable cd's & dvd's by the way.

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