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		<title>By: axisofevil</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-16333</link>
		<dc:creator>axisofevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With P2P I always restrict downloads/uploads to seeders who encrypt their data.
I get more seeders that way.

BTW This will mean that ISP&#039;s can&#039;t use the carrier only defence, if they deliver &quot;illegal&quot; or defamatory material about a person, since they will be monitoring all communications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With P2P I always restrict downloads/uploads to seeders who encrypt their data.<br />
I get more seeders that way.</p>
<p>BTW This will mean that ISP's can't use the carrier only defence, if they deliver "illegal" or defamatory material about a person, since they will be monitoring all communications.</p>
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		<title>By: halo100046</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-12451</link>
		<dc:creator>halo100046</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its a law that means we have to pay to get music that we cant even find properly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its a law that means we have to pay to get music that we cant even find properly</p>
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		<title>By: what ever</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-8517</link>
		<dc:creator>what ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day it&#039;s is a waiste of time trying to stop downloading. at the end of the day the british people get ripped off on everything. so if if the products available for sale where at a good price of around £3-£4 then people would pay for that but when there wanting us to pay £13-£15 for a single film then of cause we&#039;re going to download the film for less than a £. if they can&#039;t stop downloading why not allow it but charge a couple of pound to do it and then companys still make money and we can still get what we want with good copies rather than tat which is what we&#039;re forced to do now!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day it's is a waiste of time trying to stop downloading. at the end of the day the british people get ripped off on everything. so if if the products available for sale where at a good price of around £3-£4 then people would pay for that but when there wanting us to pay £13-£15 for a single film then of cause we're going to download the film for less than a £. if they can't stop downloading why not allow it but charge a couple of pound to do it and then companys still make money and we can still get what we want with good copies rather than tat which is what we're forced to do now!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jst</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-5483</link>
		<dc:creator>jst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe. Remeber when illegal downloads wasnt that much of a problem? new games were typically £40. now they are forced to reduce it.... GOOD. Serves them right for being to greedy. But now that there is something intimidating their riches, they&#039;re forcing action... Whats happening to them is what was happening to the consumers, except now the consumers have the upper foot, dont remember anyone putting this much effort to prevent consumers getting ripped off. But what really pissed me off was when i went and bought a movie, village i think, because the trailer on TV looked really good, but it turned out to be sooooooo crap made me wanna puke. So i just wastd my hard earned cash in the hopes of just sitting down relaxing and watching a decent movie. Where&#039;s the movie now? in the garbage yard somewhere... so i threw a good £20 in the bin.Now if every movie was like independence day or armegeddon, then i would gladly spend £20 for it, it would also have its own place on my shelf.
The funny thing is, they are trying to accomplish the impossible, and what are the ISPs thinking? If they try and intimidate users of their internet then customers will just stop using their services and either go to a provider which is still not doing anything to prevent this or just hack and &quot;leech&quot; off someone elses connection to download (those who know how, and it is becoming easier). And that you can never stop. The struggle with pirates and hackers has infinite potential it will never end and the only ones losing money are the corporations funding this kind of &quot;crackdown&quot;. Also it will give way to a new level of hacking. They have to find a way to work with the flow as the above posters have suggested. File sharing appears to be a new era. It will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe. Remeber when illegal downloads wasnt that much of a problem? new games were typically £40. now they are forced to reduce it.... GOOD. Serves them right for being to greedy. But now that there is something intimidating their riches, they're forcing action... Whats happening to them is what was happening to the consumers, except now the consumers have the upper foot, dont remember anyone putting this much effort to prevent consumers getting ripped off. But what really pissed me off was when i went and bought a movie, village i think, because the trailer on TV looked really good, but it turned out to be sooooooo crap made me wanna puke. So i just wastd my hard earned cash in the hopes of just sitting down relaxing and watching a decent movie. Where's the movie now? in the garbage yard somewhere... so i threw a good £20 in the bin.Now if every movie was like independence day or armegeddon, then i would gladly spend £20 for it, it would also have its own place on my shelf.<br />
The funny thing is, they are trying to accomplish the impossible, and what are the ISPs thinking? If they try and intimidate users of their internet then customers will just stop using their services and either go to a provider which is still not doing anything to prevent this or just hack and "leech" off someone elses connection to download (those who know how, and it is becoming easier). And that you can never stop. The struggle with pirates and hackers has infinite potential it will never end and the only ones losing money are the corporations funding this kind of "crackdown". Also it will give way to a new level of hacking. They have to find a way to work with the flow as the above posters have suggested. File sharing appears to be a new era. It will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: They can enforce this and will....</title>
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		<dc:creator>They can enforce this and will....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine recently got a letter from virgin media warning him about file sharing, it told him the time, date and more importantly exactly what he had been downloading! They even had the cheek to say he had to phone the company to apologise or his services would be terminated. Personally if it was me I would tell them where to stick that letter and go to another ISP!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine recently got a letter from virgin media warning him about file sharing, it told him the time, date and more importantly exactly what he had been downloading! They even had the cheek to say he had to phone the company to apologise or his services would be terminated. Personally if it was me I would tell them where to stick that letter and go to another ISP!!</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-4900</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont see the point isps upgrading their bandwidth etc mean ive got 20mb so i dont really need it to surf yahoo britain pays dearer than anyone for cds dvds etc now we have to pay the price for downlodidng and most of it bloody crap, get real lower the bloody prices that people can afford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont see the point isps upgrading their bandwidth etc mean ive got 20mb so i dont really need it to surf yahoo britain pays dearer than anyone for cds dvds etc now we have to pay the price for downlodidng and most of it bloody crap, get real lower the bloody prices that people can afford</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-3715</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they never get this power to pull the plug on internet users who share files, I resent having to pay up to 25 pounds for a cd in the high street!
im sick of paying 130 pounds a year to the bbc for dull censored out of date programmes and right wing bighest news ,then being told to pay per view just for the level of qualitie we used to see for our money before any way.
and every time my license expires I get a patronising ,threating red letter in the mail! well ive paid my licence for 12 years that runs into thousands of pounds!
so please tell me why when i wish to buy a dvd of an ancient bbc comedy like black adder or red dwarf I am not entitled to a discount?
I have already paid towards the production after all? so why is it 25 pounds?
Well luckly I can read korean and japanese and I watch and listen to what I want when I want for free I can watch anything I saw 300 before it was released then I bought it second hand because it was ok. I watched king kong it was very very poor so I did not buy it.
I watched easten promises....it was so good I bought it brand new from the shop.
so in short try before you buy! it means that lazy crap producers can not just sit behind a load of CGI effects and make huge profits from disapointed film fans.
This goverment and its close ifilates in monopolistic companys like the bbc as well as BT and others are scratching each others backs, slowly threading out a net that is strangling peoples civil liberties and consumer rights  and. In order to achive two things
for the goverment it is about seeing how much of a tool the computer can be to control and monitor peoples lives and keep people in there place.
for the large companys its about preventing consumer choice and strangling the small artists and producers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they never get this power to pull the plug on internet users who share files, I resent having to pay up to 25 pounds for a cd in the high street!<br />
im sick of paying 130 pounds a year to the bbc for dull censored out of date programmes and right wing bighest news ,then being told to pay per view just for the level of qualitie we used to see for our money before any way.<br />
and every time my license expires I get a patronising ,threating red letter in the mail! well ive paid my licence for 12 years that runs into thousands of pounds!<br />
so please tell me why when i wish to buy a dvd of an ancient bbc comedy like black adder or red dwarf I am not entitled to a discount?<br />
I have already paid towards the production after all? so why is it 25 pounds?<br />
Well luckly I can read korean and japanese and I watch and listen to what I want when I want for free I can watch anything I saw 300 before it was released then I bought it second hand because it was ok. I watched king kong it was very very poor so I did not buy it.<br />
I watched easten promises....it was so good I bought it brand new from the shop.<br />
so in short try before you buy! it means that lazy crap producers can not just sit behind a load of CGI effects and make huge profits from disapointed film fans.<br />
This goverment and its close ifilates in monopolistic companys like the bbc as well as BT and others are scratching each others backs, slowly threading out a net that is strangling peoples civil liberties and consumer rights  and. In order to achive two things<br />
for the goverment it is about seeing how much of a tool the computer can be to control and monitor peoples lives and keep people in there place.<br />
for the large companys its about preventing consumer choice and strangling the small artists and producers</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Diamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this need to be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this need to be done?</p>
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		<title>By: tyler diamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyler diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hear you..</description>
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		<title>By: alex wilson</title>
		<link>http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/12/illegal-downloading-to-cause-uk-internet-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-2367</link>
		<dc:creator>alex wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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